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#243127 - 08/12/05 02:13 AM Re: For what it's worth . . . [Re: garyW]
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well what I'd STILL like to ask these nuts want to defend Bush and Iraq is what the F is Bush's plan ?? has he announced a new one? NO !<br><br>the moron doesn't HAVE a workable plan- it's more of the same STUPIDITY and getting more young men like Casey KIlled !!<br>It didn't work in Vietnam - won't work now either.<br><br>We're just making OBL and Iran stronger !! <br><br>Nice plan, you dumbazz, immoral President !!<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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#243128 - 08/12/05 03:10 AM Re: For what it's worth . . . [Re: MattMac112]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> Let's let Cindy rip to shreds Casey's family and you can join in too because they speak out, saying Cindy Sheehan (their relative) is using the death of her son to advance her (now obvious) political agenda.<p><hr></blockquote><p>actually, they said "appears" not "is."<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> The liberal attack mode is pathetic.<p><hr></blockquote><p>yeah, they should just leave the rumormonger drudge alone. attacking should be his monopoly only, eh? <br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

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#243129 - 08/12/05 04:00 AM Reality Check [Re: sean]
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Just to summarize : what is developing as the most significant anti-war protest of our generation, one woman's personal protest that has tapped into the world media, one that is nonviolent and for a just cause, one who's goal is to save the lives of Americans and Iraqis, Cindy Sheehan is the single person that the President today felt he needed to address in a public statement (although he was silent last year when millions across the globe marched to protest the war), and who's protest is seen by our resident conservative as a call to arms of the "Liberal Attack Mode"... she should be ignored, her motives and respect for her own fallen child questioned [i]because of an email posted by the Drudge Report from her disgruntled in-law aunt who doesn't like her politics or her publicity. [i]<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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#243130 - 08/12/05 04:10 AM Re: Reality Check [Re: garyW]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Just to summarize : what is developing as the most significant anti-war protest of our generation, one woman's personal protest that has tapped into the world media, one that is nonviolent and for a just cause, one who's goal is to save the lives of Americans and Iraqis, Cindy Sheehan is the single person that the President today felt he needed to address in a public statement (although he was silent last year when millions across the globe marched to protest the war), and who's protest is seen by our resident conservative as a call to arms of the "Liberal Attack Mode"... she should be ignored, her motives and respect for her own fallen child questioned because of an email posted by the Drudge Report from her disgruntled in-law aunt who doesn't like her politics or her publicity.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Interpret it anyway you'd like. There is a majority that will see it for what it is.<br><br>It's really not a laughing matter.<br><br><br><br>got to let your eyes adjust
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#243131 - 08/12/05 04:21 AM Re: Reality Check [Re: SlapLeather]
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Cindy's quest is not a laughing matter. the war is not a laughing matter. that american's like cindy's son have died is not a laughing matter. <br><br>that some conservatives are trying to find a liberal attack at the heart of this woman's quest is also not a laughing matter; it's lunacy!<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

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#243132 - 08/12/05 04:25 AM Re: Reality Check [Re: SlapLeather]
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The laughing matter is the tactics used twice now by the Drudge Report and the way this twisted logic is used to discredit and disrespect her efforts.<br><br>The protest of Cindy Sheehan is one of the most serious and influential turning points of the anti-war majority. That's why I support her, promote her efforts on this forum, and will remained tuned into to her story in any way possible.<br><br><br><br>
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#243133 - 08/12/05 04:27 AM Re: Reality Check [Re: sean]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Cindy's quest is not a laughing matter. the war is not a laughing matter. that american's like cindy's son have died is not a laughing matter. <br><br>that some conservatives are trying to find a liberal attack at the heart of this woman's quest is also not a laughing matter; it's lunacy!<p><hr></blockquote><p>The Liberal attack is all in the handlers. That's not funny either.<br><br><br><br>got to let your eyes adjust
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#243134 - 08/12/05 04:38 AM Re: For what it's worth . . . [Re: sean]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>yeah, they should just leave the rumormonger drudge alone.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Why do you doubt Drudge received an email from Casey Sheehan's family? <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> attacking should be his monopoly only, eh?<p><hr></blockquote><p>How is Drudge "attacking"? The family sent an email to Drudge and said:<br><br><blockquote> Feel free to distribute it as you wish. </blockquote><br><br>Where in that is Drudge "attacking" anyone? Conversely, I see the usual suspects attacking Drudge and attacking Cindy Sheehan's family. <br><br>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br>I [censored] bigger than you.<br>
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#243135 - 08/12/05 04:45 AM Re: Reality Check [Re: garyW]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Just to summarize : what is developing as the most significant anti-war protest of our generation, one woman's personal protest that has tapped into the world media, one that is nonviolent and for a just cause, one who's goal is to save the lives of Americans and Iraqis, Cindy Sheehan is the single person that the President today felt he needed to address in a public statement (although he was silent last year when millions across the globe marched to protest the war), and who's protest is seen by our resident conservative as a call to arms of the "Liberal Attack Mode"... she should be ignored, her motives and respect for her own fallen child questioned because of an email posted by the Drudge Report from her disgruntled in-law aunt who doesn't like her politics or her publicity. <p><hr></blockquote><p>Oh Good Lord . . . Here, let me add just a tad more dramatics to your post . . . <br><br><embed src="http://homepage.mac.com/barnett112/.Music/kumbaya.wav" width=320 height=25 controller="true" autoplay="false" type="video/quicktime"><br><br>Please re-read the post with the appropriate soundtrack.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>and who's protest is seen by our resident conservative as a call to arms of the "Liberal Attack Mode"<p><hr></blockquote><p>Casey Sheehan died serving his country. Along with his Mother, the rest of his family grieves his death. Today, Casey's family decided to write a statement and send it to Drudge for posting, saying . . .<br><br><blockqoute>We do not agree with the political motivations and publicity tactics of Cindy Sheehan. She now appears to be promoting her own personal agenda and notoriety at the the expense of her son's good name and reputation. The rest of the Sheehan Family supports the troops, our country, and our President, silently, with prayer and respect.</blockquote><br><br> . . . which of course sends our resident liberals recoiling in horror like a vampire to daylight. How DARE someone speak out against their new anti-war spokesperson?! Well, they aren't just "someone", they are Casey Sheehan's family too. And they too have a voice in what Cindy Sheehan has decided to make very, very public. <br><br>* * * * * * * * * * * * * *<br>I [censored] bigger than you.<br>
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#243136 - 08/12/05 04:57 AM Re: For what it's worth . . . [Re: MattMac112]
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You accept Drudge posting a email from "aunt and godmother" as meeting acceptable journalistic standards, I dont.<br><br>Sheehan is the mother, and mothers rule. Even if the aunt-in-law and godmother are not liking it. The President even said today that this is America and Cindy Sheehan is free to say what she wants. She is, and a whole lot of people are listening. <br><br>Tomorrow's another day, and surely one more Drudge creation to get us talking <br><br><br><br>
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