i just noticed that saturn has the employee pricing deal. their VUE can be had for $200 more than the scion i test drove earlier -- $14,450.<br><br><a href="http://www.carsdirect.com/build/options?make=SA&modelid=383&acode=USB50SAS011A0&zipcode=49506&restore=false">link here</a><br><br>that's pretty incredible given that it has so much more space than the scion and other cars i've considered at that price -- MUCH more space. i don't necessarily like saturn, but the price is pretty inviting. this SUV doesn't get the gas mileage like the scion, but it does get 23 and 29 . . . quite good for an SUV. i'll have to test drive one.<br><br>actually, it's a pretty boring looking SUV, but it's cheap:<br><br>[img]http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/1229/v134...g&WIDTH=425[/img]<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.
John<br>I drive a F150 standard cab - Watch out ! !<br>I live 4 miles from work so thats 8 miles round trip - then I average about say 10 miles driving around while at work each day = 54 bucks a week to fill the tank, thank God thats a company truck.<br><br>Sean<br>I talked to people that own the Saturn Vue - They Love it.<br>However on all 3 occasions the cars were less then a month of ownership<br><br>
like john, i wanted a ford F150 and i wanted the extended cab . . . those trucks do AMAZINGLY well on resale. but, the gas mileage is a huge barrier to me. i hear that the chevy silverado has a hybrid model, but that the gas mileage is still pretty bad. maybe some day.<br><br>i am going to test drive a saturn on monday since we're heading out for the weekend. the saturn dealership is about 100 yards from the toyota / scion dealership and both are a hop, skip, and a jump away from my house. my car goes into the classifieds this sunday. that will dictate when i get the new car, so my fingers are crossed.<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.
My best advice when making a capital purchase like a new car is "Rent" the same model say over a weekend, if its in your budget to do so. More so if you have kids. Rent the Saturn Vue for 2 days and load it up with the kids the golf clubs the dog yada yada.<br><br>A test drive is just not enough time to really see if the car fits your family<br><br>IHMO<br><br>
The Xterra is a good choice. <br>It is a true off-road SUV.<br>In it's range I would probably opt for the 4Runner.<br>The 4Runner has a very good ride and has full four wheel drive as compared to part-time four wheel drive of the Xterra.<br>I probably could not afford the gas for either the 4Runner or the Xterra.<br>If I had an Xterra I would be tempted to put a powerful winch in the front.<br><br>I like the RX330 because of it's ride, interior, and instrumentation.<br>It has all-wheel drive therefore it is not a true off-road SUV like the Xterra.<br>It does have a limited-slip differential which will help it greatly for plowing through snow.<br>Since I can not afford a RX330, I will probably buy a used RX300.<br><br><br><br>
I believe if you look up the stats, you'll find that more people die in SUVs than in cars (per type of vehicle sold). Your odds are better with a car.<br><br>I'm not a "SUV drivers are evil" person, but I honest don't see much practical use for an SUV. If you want covered cargo space, a minivan is much more practical. The only purpose I can see for owning an SUV is if you do real "off-roadin'", which is almost nobody, or if you load and unload stuff several times per day - it's nice to have it waste level instead of fitting it down in a trunk.<br><br>I also don't understand the "I want to be higher in traffic" reasoning. What happens if everyone thought that way. Then you need an even bigger vehicle to be "higher in traffic". A long line of SUVs and minivans on the highway is no better vision-wise than a long line of cars.<br><br>But hey, that's just me. Drive what you like. I just wish someone could explain the appeal of the SUV.<br><br><br>
I wasn't at all advocating buying an SUV over a small car. I prefer a larger car, a minivan or a truck. Again, I look at how well they perform in crash test ratings. SUV's are very dangerous, because they roll. <br><br>
For me, an SUV offers more than a car. Not everyone drives an SUV so in a side inpact, the other guys bumper is putting it's energy below me, not in to my ribs. <br>I thinik they're safer because I can see over the car in front of me and see what the traffic is doing ahead. I don't tailgate, but this is an added plus of being able ot slow down instead of having to brake hard and chance someone rearending me. <br><br>It's safer for my kids to be in. My dog can drool to her hearts content... in the back and not slobber up the seats. <br><br>Not all SUV's are 4x4, though. Overall I think drivers are stupid, and they must think they can bully people in smaller cars when they're driving an SUV. Just a guess on my part. <br>I see the SUV for what it is. It's not a sports car and it should be driven with it's limitations in mind. <br><br>Still, I blame Infiniti for pricing the FX35 out of my price range. Dang them!<br><br>
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