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#236031 - 06/24/05 05:17 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: steveg]
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Yeah, people being maimed and killed. So what?<br><br>What's next for you steve, going to Philidelphia on July 2, stand up on the live8 stage and say "feed them condoms"<br><br>So your "nothin' inside" and your "sophomoric smartass remarks" and your "arrogance and disrespect are shameful" fall rather short.<br><br>And as to hysterics, well who bombed, invaded and occupied who? No doubt the injured, the dead, the broken lives left behind are "deeply disappointed" too. But as you said, "so what".<br><br><br><br>
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#236032 - 06/24/05 05:27 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: lanovami]
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Why? Fear of the truth that's why. Often this fear is covered up by machismo.<br><br>
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#236033 - 06/24/05 09:10 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: Zapata_]
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Ah, the old skeleton in the macho closet trick.<br><br>

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#236034 - 06/24/05 10:43 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: Zapata_]
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Twist and spin, my man. Twist and spin the words. Bend the point til it squeals. I'm on record here as being against the Iraq war and the admin, and I certainly don't revel in the carnage over there. No Zappy, the "so what" if you actually read my post has to do with the slant and volume of your links. But now, I think it'll apply to anything you have to say. So What... <br><br>
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#236035 - 06/24/05 10:59 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: steveg]
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You love to stir it, I am sure.<br>Tough I didn't get the James Dean bit.<br><br>I must admit though the whole shebang looks a bit tottery at present. Seems like Bin Laden is the one winning here. Seems like he knew exactly what Bush would do.<br><br>Shades of Maud'Dib<br><br>

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#236036 - 06/24/05 11:05 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: skuldugary]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> You're a broken record, man. <p><hr></blockquote><p>No Skul it's called CONSISTENCY !! something you guys who make excuses for the war do NOT have... one minute it's WMDs, then UN sanctions, then Saddam was bad (like we didn't know that when we wer ehelping the jerk), then it's another excuse...<br><br>and with resect to UN sanctions- many countres have bronken them incl Israel- why haven't we invaded them? <br>and when did we the USA become the UN police force? I thought Bush and the far right dispised the UN, so now we're gonna be their military force on call?? ...how CONSISTENT is that??<br><br>I can see the lack of WMDs is really bothering you ! <br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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#236037 - 06/24/05 11:23 AM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: watcher]
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Don't even get me started on that sham. Had the Admin stayed on task and not embarked on this very costly distraction, BL might have been captured by now. At the very least, the U.S. would have had far more international suport for that effort than it does now. Bush should have finished the job in Afghanistan before attempting to finish what his father didn't in Iraq 15 years ago.<br><br>BTW, Jimmy Dean is a former CW singer and the name behind a brand of sausages sold in the U.S. (Not sure how well they go with "spice".)<br><br>
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#236038 - 06/24/05 12:02 PM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: steveg]
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I know about Jimmy .. the joke just didn't gel for me either .<br><br>What we really don't know about, is Osama.<br><br><br>but where will we be when the future comes?
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#236039 - 06/24/05 12:22 PM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: skuldugary]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> You rant and rave over these bastards having to sit in a hot room. <p><hr></blockquote><p>you are thoroughly CONFUSED. Link to one of my posts where I said ANYTHING about detainees sitting in a hot room, oh delusional one !<br>YOU CAN'T cause I never said squat about it.<br><br>My main complaint about the detainees is most have not been CHARGED. <br>After 3 years, either charge and try them, or release them.<br>My other complaint has been the 100 have died in our custody- 27 by homicide.<br><br>I will say there is one big flaw in many's assessment of detainees sitting in a hot room and that is several (don't recall if you did or not) have posted since the detainees are from the desert they shouldn't suffer in a hot room. That is not logical--- anyone in 120 degree heat is stressed.. I don't care who they are (it has to do with biological functions- physiology, etc) ... people are not like bacteria- there are no thermophilic humans. Now is that "torture"?? maybe not , but it could be, I think it depends upon more information- example how long? or if they're deprived of water and become dehydrated... yes that's INHUMANE.<br><br>Look I have no problem detaining convicted terrorists, and they deserve NO "Taj Mahal " treatment. But the suspects need to be TRIED and CONVICTED first. If you have evidence - get on with it ! If not arrange for their release. I'm not advocating this but even if you released all 550 from Gitmo (not really) those numbers wouldn't be that significant an addition to all the terrorists GW has helped Laden and others recruit (estimated to be ~ 20,000 now) with his failed policies in Iraq. Like the General said - we kill 1, 3 take his place!!<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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#236040 - 06/24/05 01:19 PM Re: The Iraq War will haunt America [Re: steveg]
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I like Jimmy Dean sausage, Steve !! <br><br><br><br>the HOT variety... mmmmm <br><br>hey remember when JD had his own TV show ??<br>don't think it was on many seasons, though.<br>Remember Raplh the puppet dog ?<br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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