Gee, I dunno. How old was the youngest victim of 9/11? There were kids on those planes. Remember the news story about the two women (and their kids) who were off to Disneyland that day. By coincidence, each was on one of the two planes that struck the Towers because they had used their frequent flyer miles to buy their tickets. Paige Hackel was a friend of my wife's family. My wife worked for her husband many years ago. Kids were on those planes. So how old is the youngest detainee? I couldn't care less.<br><br>
The sky is falling! The sky is falling! <br><br><br>Fine. You worry about it. Somebody's gotta do it. I'll remain confident that things will improve. It may get worse before it get's better. But better it will get, and I'll stay focused on that, thankyouverymuch.<br><br><br><br>And now back to our regularly scheduled wrist-wringing...<br><br><br>*I said I was done here. Why didn't I listen to me?* <br><br>
Well our Internet was down the whole day so once I got home... no access.<br><br>This thread is about done, but I'll throw 2¢ in any way.<br>I understand Steveg- 9/11 touched him personally and I have great respect for that.<br><br>I have some problems with our dealings with the "accused" terrorists (they haven't been convicted of any crime):<br><br>(1) after so many months - charge them and give them the chance to defend themselves.<br>The problem with capturing and holding ANY one indefinitely with no charges opens the door for many abuses of civil rights across the Globe.. You can grab anyone - any where -guilty or not and just hold them... what kind of International Law or standard is that? What if some Iranians (or you pick someone) decided to take some Americans and hold us forever - no charges. Would that be fair ?<br>Maybe the people at Git-mo had something to do with 9/11, maybe NOT. How can anyone tell if they haven't been CONVICTED ?<br><br>(2) OK, Maybe this is not as serious torture as the Nazis, or the Russians, etc did.. at least from THIS evidence (time will tell). no fingers, feet , toes etc chopped off... no burns, cuts, electrocutions...<br>but their treatment is certainly not humane... agreed ?<br>IF someone has NOT been proven GUILTY of a crime- how can you treat them like this... we treat animals better.<br><br>(3) Lastly -torture has been proven NOT to work for any purpose but to inflict pain and revenge. For interrogation, it's worthless. And if one's govt participates in said activities - you can be sure if any of yours are captured - they'll get the same treatment or worse. One of the reasons NOT to engage in torture is to protect your own men if they're captured. <br>AND we, the USA, claims to be better than everyone else, more just, the model of Democracy of the "free world"... well friends, with this abuse- we look like a pack of hypocritical liars. This abuse does more for the recruitment of terrorists than it does good for our cause. <br> Bottom Line: It' might feel "good" like revenge for some, BUT It's a losing proposition! <br><br><br>David (OFI)<br>
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