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#222189 - 03/31/05 05:55 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: Llewelyn]
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The point is he's human, and I think at some point we'd all lose hope and move on in some way. It's just a sad situation in general, and everyone comes out of it looking bad, no matter what they do.<br><br><br>[color:red]5.19.05 - The 'Jedi Slaughter' tour begins!</font color=red>
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#222190 - 03/31/05 07:57 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: OSXaddict]
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First Johnnie Cochran now Terri Schiavo... who's next?<br><br>

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#222191 - 03/31/05 08:08 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: Optimus_George]
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the pope?<br><br>
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#222192 - 03/31/05 08:11 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: Llewelyn]
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Yeah... it seems he's heading that way...<br><br>

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#222193 - 03/31/05 08:29 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: Llewelyn]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Yet you assume that it is completely outside the realm of possibility… <p><hr></blockquote><p>Woah, hold the phone here. I NEVER said that, and I assume absolutely NOTHING about this case, other than it is an absolute tragedy. My point was simply that the finger was being pointed at the parents, when in reality, both parties acted selfishly and in their own interests, rather than Terri's.<br><br>I can see both points of view here, as someone who had to make a similar decision just a short while ago with my sister. On one hand, you hold out hope that a miracle will happen. But reality must set in at some point, and the right thing must be done. For me and my family, the decision was simple because my sister was already brain-dead by the time we arrived at the hospital, so when we gave the ok to take her off life-support (which was really only keeping blood flowing throughout her body so she could be an organ donor) the only thing we were doing was allowing the doctor to declare her LEGALLY deceased. <br><br>In Terri Schiavo's case, the situation was a little different, but the reality of it was the same... she was gone, and she was never coming back.<br><br>
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#222194 - 03/31/05 09:09 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: MacGizmo]
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Sorry about that, your post gave the impression that you were firmly in the media soap opera that Michael was evil incarnate - what scum would take $1mil for Terri's care and run off with a floozy.....and have kids with her too!!<br><br>There's two camps who are either painting the parents as money grabbing gold hunters (michael's supporters) or michael gave up his rights as a husband when he sent up a common law marriage arrangement (schindler supporters). Both sides are probably way off the mark, but the supporters are so fervid in their beliefs that it's just not funny.<br><br>Truth is a 3 edged sword.<br><br>
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#222195 - 03/31/05 09:41 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: MikeSellers]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>13 of the 22 federal judges who've had a hand in the Schiavo case were appointed by Republican presidents. Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas and five other Republican appointees on the Supreme Court declined to involve themselves in the case. A majority of the Republicans on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit repeatedly denied appeals by Terri Schiavo's parents, and a conservative Republican judge appointed by George H.W. Bush argued -- eloquently and persuasively -- that Congress and the president trampled on the Constitution when they adopted emergency legislation in an attempt to force the courts to "save" Schiavo.<p><hr></blockquote><p>salon.com (gotta run or i'd link it)<br><br>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

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#222196 - 03/31/05 10:24 PM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: Biggerfoot]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I would be furious if I had a family member staying at that hospice.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Bingo. There are something like 70 other dying patients at that hospice...and all those damn protesters and publicity whores (Jesse Jackson, Randall Terry, George Felos, Patrick Mahoney) robbed those people of their last spring on this Earth. <br><br>Shame on them all. <br><br>

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#222197 - 04/01/05 02:34 AM Re: Terri Schiavo died [Re: sean]
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Speculation? Really — ya think? <br><br>For those of us "so very far removed", there is only speculation to go on. For every 10-second sound byte the public hears, there are reams of court records and hours of testimony that only those directly involved are aware of. Of course I'm speculating. That's what IMHO means. But speculation or not, my gut tells me there's something out of whack in this story, and I still think Schiavo is a controlling schmuck who wants it all his way. And looky here — he's getting just that! <br><br>
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