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#218031 - 02/24/05 06:22 AM "Gay Threat" rhetoric
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The rhetoric of gays being a threat to families, etc. is too simplified and easy to interpret as right-wing paranoia. When you tell that to a gay guy... it sounds absurd. They think you mean it in the most literal sense, accusing them of planning to rape "NASCAR dads" in Wal-Mart parking lots while the family is getting out of the mini-van.<br><br>But I take the statement's meaning as "homsexuality's impact of on the balance of things". It's been my experience that most guys will do anything... they won't admit to it, but usually if they are comfortable enough (with the person, with the situation) they'll give something a try. And usually do it again. And again... <br><br>So that said... I'd say that what the religious-right means to say is that homosexuality is a threat to families because if the social taboo is lifted, a lot of guys wouldn't come back from a self-indulgent "phase". <br><br>The balance of power between sexes would shift... women would maybe get left behind... and the world would one day resemble "Lord of the Flies" meets "Peter Pan". That's what those books were about anyways... Gay society, aka a world without the stabilizing influence of women.<br><br>Further, I don't think it's coincidence that in the last 5 years we've seen a rise in anti-gay sentiment. I think that's largely due to the internet. Before the internet people were isolated in their sexuality. It wasn't so easy to read each other's thoughts, or exchange anonymous headless naked body picts. With the advent of the internet, I think a lot of guys that would never have been exposed to homosexuality have found it a lot easier to experiment or investigate it.<br><br>I'm gay and this stuff is obviously just my opinion... but I'm curious to see what others think.<br><br><br><br>--------------------<br>
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#218032 - 02/24/05 07:12 AM Re: "Gay Threat" rhetoric [Re: alAnonymous]
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Let me start with a cliché; I have several gay friends... <br><br>The one thing that made me chuckle because I've heard this type of thinking a number of times is when you said, <blockquote>"It's been my experience that most guys will do anything... they won't admit to it, but usually if they are comfortable enough (with the person, with the situation) they'll give something a try. And usually do it again. And again...</blockquote><br>Now, I swear I'm as tolerant as they come to anything, but this just isn't true for "most" heterosexual men. Sure, I'll try damn near anything with a pretty girl, multiple pretty girls, and maybe even an inanimate object or two (), but I'm not the least bit curious about men. Even as a younger man when the idea was new to me, and I thought I might be "missing out" on something, it was just unappealing. I certainly could have had my chances and no one would have known the better.<br><br>There are two gay people in particular that I have had this conversation with multiple times, and they both feel that the majority of people have at least a small gay tendency inside them (or at the very least a wild side) that they are repressing. I am certain that is true for some people, but I just don't think it is even close to a majority.<br><br>

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