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#216362 - 02/14/05 11:47 AM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: newkojak]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>While I think a discussion of legalized gambling is for another time<p><hr></blockquote><p>Be sure to send out a MeetingMaker when it's time. <br><br>
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#216363 - 02/14/05 03:40 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: Walrus]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Here in Minnesota we've learned a lot about the Indians in the past few years - how they lure us onto their reservations and then steal us blind.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>That has a lot more to do with people being ignorant, greedy, weak-minded fools than it has to do with "stealing".<br><br><br>

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#216364 - 02/14/05 04:12 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: hayesk]
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I put the casinos in the same bucket as cigarettes. Neither offering is good for you, but they are certainly profitable for the seller. So the corporations will do whatever it takes to seduce you and your dollars.<br><br>Granted, an informed consumer can or should be able to resist the come-on. But the job of a savvy advertiser is to identify and overcome the barriers that the consumer may put up. I know that first-hand from all the relationship marketing I've done for a variety of liquor brands (so I guess that makes me a bad guy, too — my only thin defense being that RM is more of a "thanks for your business" than "buy, buy, buy").<br><br>I too sneer at these characters that sue the tobacco companies because they chose to smoke for 40 years, and now they're sick. But knowing how some of these companies can set the hook tends to mitigate my scorn for the "victims".<br><br>
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#216365 - 02/14/05 04:31 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: Walrus]
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that's odd, because many people in Minnesote support more casinos rather than trying to reduce the number. <br><br><a href="http://www.startribune.com/stories/784/5224935.html">star tribune article</a><br><br>snippet: <blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>About three in five Minnesotans believe the state's Indian tribes should be asked to share some profits with the state to keep their monopoly on casino gambling. An equal number favor some sort of metro area casino, if a portion of the profits goes into the state's general fund, a Star Tribune Minnesota Poll shows.<br><br>As several gambling proposals queue up for consideration at the Legislature -- from a harness racing track/card club in Anoka County to slot machines at Canterbury Park to Las Vegas-style gambling at the Mall of America -- public sentiment appears to support expanding gambling in the state, particularly if it can be used as a cure to some of the state's fiscal ills.<br><br>Support for the two proposals is not just wide, it's strongly held, too. Nearly half of those polled strongly support Gov. Tim Pawlenty's negotiating with the tribes for more of the profits from their 18 casinos. About the same proportion -- nearly half -- strongly back a metro-area casino, if part of the profits were to go to the state<p><hr></blockquote><p>--<br>Straw-man rhetorical techniques are the practice of refuting weaker arguments than one's opponents offer. 2 "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw-man argument" is 2 create a position easily refuted, then attribute that position to your opponent.

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#216366 - 02/14/05 05:25 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: steveg]
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#216367 - 02/14/05 05:26 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: newkojak]
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#216368 - 02/14/05 06:23 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: hayesk]
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>That has a lot more to do with people being ignorant, greedy, weak-minded fools than it has to do with "stealing".<br><p><hr></blockquote><p> Or, has been said, you can't cheat an honest man.<br><br>I personally have never wasted a dime in an Indian casino, and never will, for various reasons.<br><br>
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#216369 - 02/22/05 03:35 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO [Re: Walrus]
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WOW Wally I am very surprised that you would not waste your welfare money in the Native American Casino.<br> I see gambling at any casino Native American or white as a personal choice. For me I have been to Vegas and did not feel the need to gamble. Some people feel a need to drink or use drugs or a thousand other addictions I do not aspire to.<br> Native American Casinos in your State do not steal White Peoples Money rather it is White People who make a choice to go to the casino and give away their money due to their personal addiction. Wally your personal addiction seems from your post to be a RACIST! What a shame your are blinded by your hate and can not see that we have a common threat to our freedom. I aspire to join all peoples for one common goal that being PERSONAL FREEDOMS that are quickly being taken.<br><br>

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#216370 - 02/22/05 11:27 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO
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[censored]. I spent some years in Arizona caring for various Navajo and Hopi peoples, including a month with the IHS in Tuba City, and with the same care and diligence with which I cared for the Anglos. <br><br>And finally, my original post was done in a mood of satire. Sorry you're too high up on your high horse to see that.<br><br>
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#216371 - 02/22/05 11:54 PM Re: LONG LIVE THE SPIRIT OF JERONIMO
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"... seems from your post to be a RACIST"<br><br>Many tribes warred against each other and would kill one another on sight. What would you, Hides Behind a False Name, call one indian who hates another indian because of their tribe?<br><br>
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