"And I don't know if being able to participate in those types of discussions has anything to do with being 'smart', as you put it Sean..."<br><br>ONCE again, i am not saying that any ONE person here is not smart enough to discuss politics, but when the MC forum has 15,000+ members, you'd better believe that a few of those people probably aren't very smart. i think we mac users tend to be a cut above and i give people here a MM a lot of credit when it comes to serious discussion. the numbers i suggested are not all inclusive by any means and were presented as a few possible theories...some people don't have time to watch CNN 24/7 to keep up on some minor, but specific topic being discussed that day. i also think some people don't like to reveal too much personally, so they likely won't participate in a thread that requires taking a position and defending it. i use my real name and don't try to hide much. plus, i live in one of the most conservative areas of the country...you'd better believe that i often hold back on what i really think because i fear potential repercussions from my students and/or my peers at my university. and then there are people in my community who could use my thoughts against me (e.g., i'd like to run for the school board in a few years).<br><br>AGAIN, i think most of us are pretty intelligent and capable of discussing a whole host of varied topics. of course i include you in this group. <br><br>[color:blue] -sean</font color=blue>

Oh don't get me wrong- I wasn't taking offense and thinking that you called me a moron...<br><br>I just thought that seemed a little too broad of a sentence as it related to political/world discussions.<br><br>Maybe 'uninformed' would be a lot more accurate. Yes, sometimes a lot of us are uninformed on such matters that others seem to know EVERYTHING about - or at least think they do!<br><br>[color:red]Hold on...it's time for a</font color=red><br>

POLI<br><br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>But, I will post whatever I want here. Don't like it, then don't read the thread. <p><hr></blockquote><p>That rule is self-imposed Mike. The Mods don't have any such rule and frankly they seem pretty tolerant for the most part.<br><br>If you want to post politics, particularly American politics, you won't get me hassling you about it. You won't get me participating either, since I don't live in the US and most of what I've seen 'discussed' in the past has been people with opposing party leanings abusing each other's choices.<br><br>And just to break my own 'rule', the 2 major American parties are so similar in philosophy that the differences between them seem to an outsider such as myself as so subtle and meaningless that I'm amazed anyone can get up a head of steam about those issues at all.<br><br>But, post on Mike. This is my first and last response to a political thread here. I will, however, respond to your posts on other topics where I feel I can contribute something, and it would be a shame if you stopped posting here altogether.<br><br>I for one value your contribnution to this forum. <br><br>

Yeah... I'm with Mach... wish you came around more... we miss having you here.<br><br>

I agree with you Giz. I migrated to this forum to escape the problems of the real world. I have my own share of problems to deal with. I need a certain amount of fun. <br><br>Unlike some here, I don't have a problem with MC. I know certain folks to stay away from there and I exercise that perogative. It was interesting at first to read some of the political threads. Being Canadian, I had little knowledge of American politics. It didn't take me long though to get quite bored with same old nonsence over and over.<br><br>Having said this, if someone wants to post something intelligent here that's fine by me but I won't be participating in that thread. If others feel the same way as I then they too can just stay away.<br><br><br><br>

6 and 7 for me.<br><br>Its not so much about having the threads. Just that at MC sometimes 7 out of 10 threads are political in nature, like the forum should change its name to Mac Politics or something. Last month almost the whole main page was a bitch match.<br><br>A few political threads are fine I just don't care fore it when it takes over the forum.<br><br>

.. you left out:<br><br>8.) they're embarrassed that their party's President Bush is not the easiest President to praise or defend in debate, and so they'd rather have debates in general silence, which is in itself, politics.<br><br>Yes, whoever initiated the 'no politics rule' here did so contrary to the forum's set guidelines, the initial reason why many left MC in the first place, but AHH.. how short our long term memory.<br><br>Don't worry, I won't break up your little 'click' and politic in these realms, since, at present, the pressure to control content is stronger here than at MC.<br><br>

Who wrote this rule? Is it a Rule or is it a "rule?" Who supervises it?<br><br>

9) See, that's why we don't get into it- because more often than not, someone likes to rock the boat...<br><br>[color:red]Hold on...it's time for a</font color=red><br>