"At least two non-christian religious symbols (including Shiva) used here: http://www.anniesprinkle.org/"<br><br>That was a good example. <br><br>"And again, Serrano was not attacking Christianity. He was attacking the Catholic church."<br><br>Regardless, he presented a Christian symbol in a negative context. The original point of this meandering discussion was that negativity toward Christian imagery and values happens much more frequently than it does with non-Christian imagery and values. Go ahead, make another post how I don't "get" Serrano's intent. Sigh.<br><br>
Is this where the MM Council of Elders puts me in my place? <br><br>You're right, I laugh at myself all the time. You should try it.<br><br>Now for one hand clapping, I follow Bart Simpson's solution to that koan. <br>"It's easy Lisa, clap, clap clap."<br><br>The harder koan is, "what is the sound of SteveG getting the last word?"<br><br> Wait for it ... <br><br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> The original point of this meandering discussion was that negativity toward Christian imagery and values happens much more frequently than it does with non-Christian imagery and values. <p><hr></blockquote><p> While this is true isn't it more based on the size of the target? A stand up comic gets a lot of laughs when she makes fun of her parochial education, "Catholic girls are easy" or the "nuns were whacky" because a large part of the audience can relate.<br>The stand up is going to get booed off the stage if she makes fun of growing up bhuddist not because bhuddists are more sensitive but they just aren't a big enough target.<br>We have a born again christian president so there are going to be born again pot shots. It comes with the territory of being the top dog.<br><br><br><br><br>
*sigh*<br>Last word? I doubt I'll have it. And it doesn't really matter. However, since you're such a proponent of putting one's cards on the table, I'll honor that preference with one last comment before I place you back on my "ignore" list.<br><br>Given what you do for a living — with my wife being a cancer survivor and with my 13-year involvement in the PMC (still the Jimmy Fund's biggest fundraiser?) — I have enormous respect and admiration for you. And I think you're a pretty bright guy.<br><br>But it seems to me that you can't handle an opposing POV without being smug, condescending, and flat out nasty in a back-door way. Much of what you accuse us "wet hens" of are traits you yourself exhibit — just with your own spin. And that makes you just as big a hypocrite and as big a prick as you've implied others are. It's the same old "if you don't agree with me you're stupid" that we see over and over again.<br><br>And just to save you the keystrokes, I'll say right now that I've been guilty of the very same thing at times. So, by the power vested in me by the Great Being known as ItTakesOneToKnowOne, I say you're a real [censored].<br><br>Glad we've had this little chat. <br><br>
"How about that?"<br>Coming from someone else that would have been disappointing, but from you? Not a bad tantrum.<br><br>Yes, I can say it's a fact that Bush is less of an evil than Kerry. I can say for a fact that Kerry is a fascist, and a racist. He spreads hate every where he goes. example? The first thing out of his mouth, after Bush spoke of being allies with Iraq, Kerry insults Ayad Allawi. After a lot of work getting other countries on board to deal with North Koreas nukes, Kerry dismisses those countries saying America can do it ourselves. <br>Kerry is either so stupid he's dangerous or sees himself as a peace time Hitler. <br><br>Because you don't have anything of substance to debate with, you cast personal insults. You can't defend anything about Kerry, because all you know are the empty sound bites you've gobbled up, happy to take them, because that way, you could let someone else do your thinking for you.<br><br>Get as cranky as you want. Rant to your hearts content. It is only 'the raging of dreaming sheep'.<br><br><br>
I must be a Sensei solving two koans in one day. The sound of SteveG getting the last word " *sigh* "<br><br>Thanks for not disappointing. <br><br>You're right, I use condescending mockery a bit too much. I was mimicking the foul mouths here and I guess you didn't get the sarcasm involved. I should have placed more of those winkies in there to let myself off the hook.<br><br>But I don't think you were using mocking mimicry when going to "big prick and a "real [censored]" so I will add you to my list of people who run out of words too frequently and have to resort to vulgarities to get their point across.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the thumbs up on the tantrum. I knew you would understand. <br><br>I still gotta nit pick on this fact/opinion thing though. The litany of descriptives for Kerry you have compiled still have to go into the opinion category. <br><br>Our country is run by a democracy where majority rules. That means if you get 50.00001 % you are running the country and that is that. What it does not mean is that you are suddenly correct and the opponent who got less than 50% is now a liar, racist etc.<br><br>I don't want to waste time trying to convince you that John Kerry is not a racist but I bet there are a couple of "facts" out there which could be used in an argument against that. John Kerry has been my Senator for 19 years so I have known him for more than a few sound bites. I think the most valiant thing he has done in his life was to come back from the Vietnam War and speak out against it. You think the opposite. That is called differing opinions. The words he spoke in front of the Senate are facts. Taking one sentence out and twisting it turns fact into opinion. <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>We're trading insults here.<p><hr></blockquote><p>No, we are not. After reading your endless, tiresome, supercilious posts it has become obvious that you are incapable of insulting anyone anymore.<br><br>Never anthropomorphize your Mac - they hate that.
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How is "a real [censored]" vulgar? <br><br>I trust you have a cross reference for your list. I'm guessing it's pretty long, or was long years ago. By now it must run into the volumes.<br><br>Not that I feel the need to defend Steve, he's a grown man, but I like him. I've always liked the way he handles himself in a scrap and can turn around and help someone with a problem. <br>I don't see the same with you. Mostly, you just beat the political drum are mud slinging. If you want to be treated with a bit more regard, try posting on the other forum and help people. Or at the very least, just chat about stuff.<br><br>
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