I'm surprised no one has mentioned poisoning. AIDS, or any of the downstream problems caused by AIDS usually does not take someone down so quickly. He walked to a helicopter last week and is now slipping deeper into a coma. Doesn't sound like any of the diseases that have been mentioned.<br>Could it be he was slipped a bit of ricin by the next PLO leader? That would shutdown his body over a period of a week. I doubt the Paris toxicology lab would let that lab report see the light of day. They would put a match to it. Sure sounds like the PLO leaders who just landed in Paris know Arafat bought a one way ticket.<br><br>Let the wild speculations begin.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>AIDS, or any of the downstream problems caused by AIDS usually does not take someone down so quickly.<p><hr></blockquote><p>We don't know how long he's been ill. For some time now he's looked like the dog's breakfast.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Could it be he was slipped a bit of ricin by the next PLO leader?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Probably not the "drug of choice". From the CDC:<br><br>Signs and symptoms of ricin exposure<br><br><br>The major symptoms of ricin poisoning depend on the route of exposure and the dose received, though many organs may be affected in severe cases.<br><br>Initial symptoms of ricin poisoning by inhalation may occur within 8 hours of exposure. Following ingestion of ricin, initial symptoms typically occur in less than 6 hours.<br><br>Inhalation: Within a few hours of inhaling significant amounts of ricin, the likely symptoms would be respiratory distress (difficulty breathing), fever, cough, nausea, and tightness in the chest. Heavy sweating may follow as well as fluid building up in the lungs (pulmonary edema). This would make breathing even more difficult, and the skin might turn blue. Excess fluid in the lungs would be diagnosed by x-ray or by listening to the chest with a stethoscope. Finally, low blood pressure and respiratory failure may occur, leading to death. In cases of known exposure to ricin, people having respiratory symptoms that started within 12 hours of inhaling ricin should seek medical care.<br><br>Ingestion: If someone swallows a significant amount of ricin, he or she would develop vomiting and diarrhea that may become bloody. Severe dehydration may be the result, followed by low blood pressure. Other signs or symptoms may include hallucinations, seizures, and blood in the urine. Within several days, the personís liver, spleen, and kidneys might stop working, and the person could die.<br><br>Skin and eye exposure: Ricin in the powder or mist form can cause redness and pain of the skin and the eyes.<br><br>Death from ricin poisoning could take place within 36 to 72 hours of exposure, depending on the route of exposure (inhalation, ingestion, or injection) and the dose received. If death has not occurred in 3 to 5 days, the victim usually recovers.<br><br>Showing these signs and symptoms does not necessarily mean that a person has been exposed to ricin.<br><br>
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Ah but the CDC only has ingestion or inhalation. That isn't the way you kill someone with ricin. There was a spy standing on a rainy street corner in London many years back. Someone accidently poked him in the calf with the end of an umbrella. He felt a sharp pain but the clumsy person was very apologetic and the spy didn't think anything more of it. Two days later he wasn't feeling well and went to the hospital. He never left and died a week later.<br><br>What the umbrella point had on the end of a sharp tip was a very small metal ball with holes in it. It leaked out an excruciatingly small amount over the next day into the dead mans leg.<br><br>The ricin molecule enters the cell and basically stops your ribosomes from working. If they don't work then protein synthesis is kaput and the cell dies. The ricin then goes to find another cell to 86. Because of this the entry point into the body gives you varied symptoms. Ingest it and your digestive system shuts down as the CDC describes. Inhale it and your lungs give up the ghost as the CDC describes. But by trickling in a small amount subcutaneously you attack the lymph system which would mimc what has been happening to Arafat. The point of injection would also rot away but only in a very small area. If the assassin wanted to add one more layer to obscure intent she would apply the ricin to things that Arafat would touch daily with a coating of DMSO. The DMSO would allow the ricin to pass through the skin easily. A slow poisoning over weeks or months would mimic Arafat's demise.<br><br>FYI: it was only a very clever doctor who dissected the strange wound on the dead man's leg and found the microscopic ball who figured his death out.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>ps. The CDC web site tones down all the good information about the best poisons. They may not want to start a fad.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>You mean too many Lucrezia Borgia wannabees?<br><br>Anyhow, in interests of brevity, I didn't post the whole site. They do mention the case of Markov. If anyone is interested, it's here.<br><br>
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