Thanks guys. Good counterpoints. I was so pissed by Ivan's grossly inaccurate generalization about Americans that I decided not to reply lest I say something regrettable.<br><br>Ivan, that remark was unfair and ill-considered, and I hope the next time you pause a moment before you hit the "submit" button. This country has many faults. But lack of compassion ain't one of 'em. And I think these two guys pointed that out quite clearly.<br><br>Now go to your room! <br><br>
"i am trying to understand the thinking behind some of the wedge issues that likely drove many voters to the polls"<br><br>Honestly, the issue that sent me to the polls is that Kerry was willing to poison America so he could get into office. That Bush had done more in 4 years than Kerry had done in 20 years. That Kerry insulted international allies and our armed forces. Kerry did nothing to tell us what he'd do other than he had a 'plan', but he was very good at telling us and the rest of the world what's wrong it every thing about America.<br><br>I have no end of contempt for Kerry and you must understand that this is not my attempt at rubbing anyones nose in it, but I am overjoyed that prick is not in the drivers seat of this country.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Thanks guys. Good counterpoints. I was so pissed by Ivan's grossly inaccurate generalization about Americans that I decided not to reply lest I say something regrettable.<br><br>Ivan, that remark was unfair and ill-considered, and I hope the next time you pause a moment before you hit the "submit" button. This country has many faults. But lack of compassion ain't one of 'em. And I think these two guys pointed that out quite clearly.<br><br>Now go to your room!<p><hr></blockquote><p>Denial. Great. Ivan's just stupid, but I know it all. C'mon guys! Be wiser. Just think for a moment, why everyone is saying things like me and Stephan. Seriously.<br><br>I generalize because I want to get a point accross. Of course I know not all Americans are the same. That's a given.<br><br>Pause before I hit submit? Don't play this game again. I'm not a stupid kid you should teach a lesson.<br><br>There is much America has given to the world and I don't deny that. My grandma still has a metal bucket for flour that she got during the WW2 as an aid. However, I feel (and other 2-3 billion people in the World) that Bush is riding the wave of former fame of America and doing his own agenda rather than taking a more global perspective. And he convinced many to vote for him just to get his business going. So sorry to see this happen.<br><br>The election was about America, but as in a family you don't only decide for yourself, but you care about your family, America being the strongest country and self appointed police of the world has moral responsibilities. <br><br>The problem is when you elect Bush you don't only decide the fate of Americans! You decide the fate of Iraqis, Palestinians, Afgans, soon Iranis, Syrians, North Koreans, etc.<br><br>People of the world don't care about elections in Canada, India or anywhere else, because these countries no matter how powerfull they are, they don't go and invade other countries. People of the World care about the American president because America became arogant and agressive. People care because they hope for help, but expect danger. :(<br><br>I'm not an American hater by far. Quite the opposite. If the US would pull out from Iraq, would put a bit of pressure on Israel to allow Palestine to become an independent country for a start I and many would feel so much more comfortable and it would be great for America as well.<br><br>
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Good post Ivan. Don't think that all of us took your post as a slur against all Americans. As the USA continues to hunker down in isolation, views from the outside our necessary and needed. (When I say isolation I mean listening to the outside. We certainly seem to want to bomb anything that disagrees with us.) <br><br>Eck got chased out of town and you might be the last thorn in the side here from outside the US. As we wallow in our greatness we need a thorn or two. Keep them coming.<br><br><br><br><br>red sox otter pops for sale
"The problem is when you elect Bush you don't only decide the fate of Americans! You decide the fate of Iraqis, Palestinians, Afgans, soon Iranis, Syrians, North Koreans, etc"<br><br>You left out Al-Qa'ida, the Taliban, Hamas, and the PLO. America is making decisions for them to. I'm all kinds of sorry that you're bothered when America goes after people who feel it's okay to slaughter people by the thousands, set off bombs on school buses, teach their children that it's Gods will to kill Jews and Christians, oh yes, and threaten to drop nuclear bombs if they don't get their way. <br><br>I'm dumbfounded. Do you honestly believe they are just misunderstood? That if left alone, they'd play nice? North Korea has threatened to use a nuclear bomb. Not for protection, but because they want to extort from other countries. It's no different if your neighbor stuck a gun in your face and said, 'I can't afford cable, so you're going to give me yours. And in the future, if I want something and don't get it, I'm going to come over here and shoot everyone.' <br><br>Why would anyone support these terrorists is beyond my understanding.<br><br>
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Kerry made it very clear he was in support of Israel too, so I don't think all our tensions with the middle east would have magically disappeared just because we didn't vote in Bush.<br><br>I want to believe W. will try and make it right these next 4 years, but for some reason the fact that Cheney isn't running in '08 scares me- if it was me as president, wouldn't I just be able to do whatever I wanted with no fear of affecting my VP's chances in the next election?<br><br>[color:red]C'mon...you know me.</font color=red>
Republican control of both houses and the Whitehouse. While GWB might have no cares in the world, with regards to reelection. The senators and congressmen do.<br><br>And if he really does screw up, then the republican party fortunes WILL change when he does leave office. The question he will need to ask himself - can I live retirement under a Hilary Clinton administration?<br><br>
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The problem is when you elect Bush you don't only decide the fate of Americans! You decide the fate of Iraqis, Palestinians, Afgans, soon Iranis, Syrians, North Koreans, etc.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>This is where the vote didn't matter, remember Kerry saying he'd kill the terrorists too? Either candidate would keep on raping and pillaging the middle east just as happily as every president in the last 50 years has. I didn't see either candidate saying they'd reflect upon US policy and try to understand the terrorists motives. Nope, just KILL 'EM!!<br><br>
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Seriously, who's going to get elected in this country (see: large Jewish population) who doesn't come out in favor of Israel and against 'the terrorists'...?<br><br><br><br>[color:red]C'mon...you know me.</font color=red>
That's one of those areas where the politically correct thing to do often shrouds the real policy of the policy makers. There is no way on Earth John Kerry could have said anything about reevaluating the United State's position in the world. He caught hell for merely suggesting that the President apply some kind of standard of truth and credibility when he wages war.<br><br>As long as group-think rules the day in Washington, you'll never hear any politician stand up for critical reflection, despite their own practice.<br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey
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