i think anyone who was president on 9/11 would have went after al qaeda and would probably still have world support in this effort. i am about as much of a pacifist as you'll find and knew we had to go after al qaeda and would have done so as president. that was a no-brainer. the iraq war, on the other hand, was a brainless move, so i guess you could say in a twisted way that it was also a "no-brainer" move. <br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato

So much of the intense criticism of Kerry begins with "I believe he would have...."<br><br>Well you don't know, and Bush doesn't know as he claims what the world would be like today if Kerry had been in charge. It's bogus and only clouds the issues we're dealing with right now. Not what ifs.<br><br>'What Kerry would have done' derived statements through the republican filter are as dishonest as the the lame-ass reinvention of his "global test" comment.... the way the Bush people spin it you would think these people could never have passed a basic high school SAT reading comprehension exam. You are an intelligent guy. You've read the transcript of Kerry's debate comment in its full context. Do you honestly interpret what he stated, as Ed Gillispe's talking point interpretation, that Kerry will ask permission from France before he would protect America's security? When Bush says this do you believe it is being honest?<br><br>The other day I heard Dennis Miller respond to a question on how he will react to a Kerry victory. Miller answered something like, "on Nov.3 he will be my president and I will support him 100%".<br><br>I hope all Americans will have the same decency. I know I tried to keep an open mind when Bush took office despite the horrible election fracas, and I certainly was behind Bush on 9/12. If Kerry wins, let him prove himself. Then you can truthfully criticze him for what he has done and not what "he probably would do".<br><br><br> <br><br>

When a brand new Peanuts cartoon came out, did you believe Lucy when she told Charlie Brown that "this time" she wouldn't pull the football away?<br>This is how I see Kerry's "I will kill the terrorists..." line.<br><br>I say "I believe" based on Kerry a multitude of previous statements and his track record of foreign policy votes.<br><br>If I were to accept your premise then I could just as easily say people are voting against Bush just because "they believe" he'll make bad decisions for the country in the next term when they should just really give him the benefit of the doubt and let him prove himself.<br><br>And yes based on all previous John Kerry statements over the last 20 or so years I think Kerry would seek permission for US military action from the UN and if the UN denies permission no such military action would proceed.<br><br>And if he is shown to be the president on November 24th then I will look at his actions starting on Jan. 20th and will criticize his actions if warranted.<br><br>No sig right now, waiting for the next Kerry flip-flop. .

Trouble is Kerry gives the impression that he believes Al Qaida is a Dragon - cut off it's head and it will die. The trouble is with fanatical organisations they are more akin to an Hydra, cut off its head and it will grow back. Kerry has stated categorically that he will capture and kill (no trial?) Osama bin Laden - I then read into that, "job done, war against terror is over" - which is what many Americans want to hear. Stop the needless waste of the lives of the US armed forces. Trouble is that still leaves Al Qaida members alive and a new head will replace ObL, and the killings will continue.<br><br>

[thread diversion]<br>Well, really more than likely OBL is dead already. So all his talk about OBL the person falls on deaf ears for me.<br>Then Kerry turning the OBL hunt into a "failure" is crap too.<br>"Outsourcing" Tora-Bora is false and again contradicts his earlier statements about our Tora-Bora stragedy.<br>I guess if this were a "War against OBL" and not a "War against Terrorism" I'd be more worried about OBL whereabouts and disposition but this fight is about so much more than OBL.<br>[/thread diversion]<br><br>No sig right now, waiting for the next Kerry flip-flop. .

exactly what I was getting at.....ObL is the "poster boy of evil" for the left. His bank accounts are frozen, his primary known Lt's are dead or captured - my guess is even if he is alive his effectiveness is vastely diminished.<br><br>

Interesting report.<br><br>http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=159660<br><br>Might have to use Internet Explorer to view it.<br><br><br><br>"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein <br> <br><br><br>

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=1<br><br><br>A 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew in Iraq shortly after the fall of Saddam Hussein was in the area where tons of explosives disappeared.<br><br>The missing explosives are now an issue in the presidential debate. Democratic candidate John Kerry is accusing President Bush of not securing the site they allegedly disappeared from. President Bush says no one knows if the ammunition was taken before or after the fall of Baghdad on April 9, 2003 when coalition troops moved in to the area.<br><br>Using GPS technology and talking with members of the 101st Airborne 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS determined our crew embedded with them may have been on the southern edge of the Al Qaqaa installation, where that ammunition disappeared. Our crew was based just south of Al Qaqaa. On April 18, 2003 they drove two or three miles north into what is believed to be that area.<br><br>During that trip, members of the 101st Airborne Division showed the 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS crew bunker after bunker of material labelled explosives. Usually it took just the snap of a bolt cutter to get in and see the material identified by the 101st as detonation cords.<br>"We can stick it in those and make some good bombs." a soldier told our crew. <br><br><br><br>

"This story will be huge and someone in this administration needs to take responsibility."<br><br>Yes, someone needs to take responsibility. That someone should be Kerry. He's a terrorist in our own country. He's doing exactly what a terrorist does. He's spreading fear and hate. He's denouncing our allies, our military, our government. These are absolut facts.<br><br>Now he's jumped on this 380 tons nonsense, and for what? So he can be elected. A wise leader would have waited to see all the facts. Not Kerry. At your expense, he leaped on this and is playing on our fears for his gain. <br><br>Is this the kind of leader you want? To Kerry, you are a tool for his use. He's done more damage to cause a division in our country than anyone since the Civil War. <br><br>He's not just stupid. He's evil<br><br>

"This story will be huge and someone in this administration needs to take responsibility."<br><br>Yes, someone needs to take responsibility. That someone should be Kerry. He's a terrorist in our own country. He's doing exactly what a terrorist does. He's spreading fear and hate. He's denouncing our allies, our military, our government. These are absolut facts.<br><br>Now he's jumped on this 380 tons nonsense, and for what? So he can be elected. A wise leader would have waited to see all the facts. Not Kerry. At your expense, he leaped on this and is playing on our fears for his gain. <br><br>Is this the kind of leader you want? To Kerry, you are a tool for his use. He's done more damage to cause a division in our country than anyone since the Civil War. <br><br>He's not just stupid. He's evil[b]<br><br><br><br>Sorry that's Cheney's Job.<br><br><br><br>"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." Albert Einstein <br> <br><br><br>