here's what you missed: from ABC's australian website:<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Democrat John Kerry won the third presidential debate tonight over US President George W Bush, according to instant polls taken by US television networks.<br><br>Fifty-two per cent of those polled by CNN said Kerry won the debate in Tempe, Arizona, while 39 per cent said Bush won.<br><br>The poll had a five percentage-point margin of error.<br><br>In CBS's poll of uncommitted voters, 39 per cent said Kerry won, 25 per cent Bush and 36 per cent called it a tie. The margin of error was seven percentage points.<p><hr></blockquote><p>gotta love those polls <br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Y'know Bush's tone in all three of these debates has been that of a defensive teenager whose parents get home a day early and find the house a mess from the previous night's party: "WHAT DO YOU MEAN? *HUFF* I TOOK THE GARBAGE OUT THIS MORNING!!! WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME!?!?!"<br><br>Kerry finally started saying something that I wish he would have touched on repeatedly.<br><br>Being at war with terror is no excuse for having done such a craptacular job of taking care of the country. WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vietnam... all those Presidents managed to be "War Presidents" and still have a plan/not excuses for domestic issues.<br><br>I also think Kerry could have made a better impression on national security/foreign policy if he would have repeatedly quoted "Walk Softly And Carry A Big Stick". It sounds like that's what he's trying to describe...<br><br><br>
I prefer these highly scientific online polls (nothing like seeing it on Fox)<br><br><br><br>After all three debates the first 4-5 hours have shown a double digit lead for Kerry. Then sometime around 1:00-4:00 a.m. EST the Bush votes really pick up and the Kerry votes seem to stop completely. By the time I check it in the morning I'm sure Bush will a nice, comfortable lead. None of the other polls seem to do that. Strange. <br>
Karen Hughes must have introduced Bush to the concept of the "pay as you go" one-liner. It seems Rove has noticed the frequency with which Kerry attacks Bush on abandoning this principle of fiscal conservativism and thinks it could present the opportunity for a great "defining moment" one-liner using the phrase. He is to wait until he hears the phrase "pay as you go" to engage the joke-gears and deliver at the very next opportunity. And sure enough, Kerry utters the phrase "pay as you go." Instantly, Bush hears in his mind, "Pay. Go. Pay. Go. Pay. Go...." and at the next opportunity for a response, this is the "gem" as he delivers it:<br><br>"He talks about pay-go. I'll tell you what pay-go means: when you're a senator from Massachusetts, when you're a colleague of Ted Kennedy, pay-go means you pay and he goes ahead and spends." <br><br><br>
I thought that was pretty ridiculous. Every thing Bush said about wanting to work together and unite the country in his second term just rang hollow every time he slung that kind of label at John Kerry.<br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey<br>
That fox poll (and others like it) kills me. The question is "who won", not "did you watch? and who won?"... doing it that way diffuses the bad numbers for Bush by including percentages for answers that do NOT answer the question. (C and D are irrelevant).<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>[img]By the time I check it in the morning I'm sure Bush will a nice, comfortable lead[/img]<p><hr></blockquote><p>Nope.<br>11AM Thurs.<br><br><br>I voted for Kerry on this poll. I was only half heartedly watching while playing in a poker tourney on-line, but Bush seemed to be even more of an azz from what I saw.<br><br>
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