Wow, I didn't catch the debate so I was only going on hearsay and the Daily Show as to how badly Bush did. I thought it was mostly a visual thing about rolling the eyes and smirking. But I just listened to the whole thing and he sure did suck. <br><br>"Bein' the president is hard work and my opponent keeps changing his mind". Over and over and over again. I just read a link in another forum which quoted some conservatives. They think Bush is suffering from Ovalitis and being a bubble boy for the last four years. Meaning no one brings him bad news. (If they do they get fired.) When was the last time Bush has even seen a detractor? They are not allowed near him on the campaign trail. Only Bush Love-Ins. The guy is believing his own yes men. He must think everything is hunky dory in Iraq and Afghanistan.<br><br>I'm a dyed in the wool liberal and I felt sorry for him. And Kerry seemed to feel sorry for him too. Bush was leaving some soft ones in the center of the plate that kerry could have crushed.<br><br>Thanks for the link.<br><br><br><br><br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener
i think Cheney is going to have a much better debate than Edwards. then again, not many people vote based on VPs, thank gosh. i just hope they get more bitter and mean in that debate than we saw last week. dubya should easily defeat kerry in the town hall debate, since he's a man of the people. kerry will look too elitist and will look out of place talking with regular folk. given dubya's background of winning every debate he's been in (until last week), i expect a very, very strong rebound. perhaps he needed to get his head kicked in to pop his ego balloon, but i have no doubt he'll be ready.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
If you look at any of the pertinent analysis of George W. Bush's failures in the first debate, I don't think anyone criticized him for not being of the people or not personable. Sure there was some talk about the head shaking and slumped posture, but he suffered mostly from his rhetorical positions. Plain and simple, the kind of world that he said to be was clashing with the kind of world that we all know to be. His personal discomfort was coming from that.<br><br>I don't see a town hall type of debate being any different. Once again, George W. Bush is going to be hearing questions from the audience and commentary from John Kerry that is based completely on a reality that Bush is uncomfortable with dealing in. How is Bush going to react when some sorry sam in the hall asks what he will do to keep jobs from going overseas? Once again, Bush's answers are going to be based in that precarious bubble he has trapped himself in and whatever one-liners he has are going to fall flat on an audience that just heard a nuanced answer from John Kerry.<br><br>I think we underestimate (or should I say misunderestimate ) the intelligence of regular voters much more than we underestimate whatever debating ability Bush has. This time around, people know it's important, and they know enough to listen closely to what Bush says when his throw-away one-liners aren't affirmed with the cheers of handpicked stump speech audiences.<br><br>Looking ahead is simple. Just compare Bush's message to what everybody knows is true. Are we turning a corner? Did the tax cuts work? Is Medicare fixed? In each of those simple questions is a deficit and Bush's relative performance at the debate is going to be directly proportional to his ability to overcome those deficits. I happen to believe it is impossible.<br><br>As for Edwards, I really don't know how he will do and that's why I'm anxious to see it. Last time around, Cheney got through the debates by being a pretty warm and understanding debater, completely contradictory to the vice president he became. There will be a few things to look for. Cheney will make some crack at Edwards for being a trial lawyer, brining up tort reform as a solution to rising health care costs. How Edwards can handle barbs like those will determine how well he does, because all Cheney has are barbs.<br><br>We'll see.<br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey<br>
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