<a href="http://www.electoral-vote.com/">electoral-vote.com</a><br><br>kerry is back up and is now past the 270 magic number. actually, he's at 269, but colorado is expected to pass a law splitting its electoral votes by percentage and it will go into effect on election day. thus, dubya wouldn't win all of the votes from colorado as some would be earned by kerry and that pushes him over 270. whahoo! for a while i thought kerry was down and out but clinton's people have him on message and the iraq stuff is going to resonate more and more. hopefully we'll hear more and more in the debate next week . . . assuming there are debates.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
that's not true . . . in any 1 hour time segment. you'd have to apply that statement to each day. <br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Right, looks like that didn't last too long.<br><br>Are we really going to have a post each time this web site changes the number?<br><br>BTW, the Iraq stuff is not going to resonate more and more it's the Iraq stuff that will end up killing Kerry.<br><br>Kerry needs to focus on domestic issues.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
i pointed out the numbers yesterday because it was the first lead that kerry has had since back in early august. i thought that was an important milestone and come back. if you'd like to post daily, that would be fine, but i think we all know it'll be close from here on out.<br><br>i think 5 1/2 weeks of a consistent and sustained attack on bush and the failed iraq policies will resonate. the key is to stay on message, which kerry failed at for most of his campaign. clinton's people appear to have things finally in order. as dubya continues to misrepresent the status quo in iraq, kerry has to provide the contrast . . . kerry can point to the many key republicans who agree with kerry's assessment (e.g., nagel, mccain, etc.). this will catch hold over the next month. democrats tend to win on domestic issues so that will obviously be part of his 2-pronged attack, but no campaign stop can go by without the same message on iraq being repeated. 1/2 of his closing comments in the debates should be pointing out blunders and failed policies in iraq and how kerry would be more successful at generating support from the world, etc.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
How exactly is Kerry going to be more successful at generating support from the world? Is this his "I'm more charming" platform?<br><br>France and Germany have both publicly stated that no matter the results of the election you won't be seeing their troops in Iraq.<br><br>Telling the people of the US that we are losers is not going to catch.<br>If he'd have been smart he would have said, Iraq was the right thing to do and we will stay there and win but here is what I'll do differently. Instead he goes from troops out in 6 months... no, troops out in 4 years... no, we need more troops... We need more money in Iraq.... no, we are spending too much...<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
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Yeah, that's really the one thing that's bugging me about possibly voting for the man..<br><br>I know the GW 'cowboy' approach hasn't exactly curried much favor amongst the other nations of the world, but I don't really want to shift to a 'UN's bootlick' attitude either...<br><br>This 'I have to wait and see the state of affairs in Iraq on January 20th before I reveal my master plan' policy by Kerry is just not washing with me. Have things really changed all that much since we arrived in Baghdad all those months ago? <br><br>C'mon Kerry, spill it. If ya got something in mind, now's the time. <br><br>[color:red]C'mon...you know me.</font color=red>
you don't have to be in iraq to provide support. for example, kerry (off-the-cuff, when asked) stated that other countries could provide training to iraqi troops who are flown to other countries. the cost is minimal when we're talking hundreds of billions being spent. the iraqi soldiers can train in peace and not worry about being blown up while they are in a group or sitting around. they can return to iraq after being trained and equipped. much more effective than the status quo and this allows many countries to participate in the rebuilding efforts.<br><br>how does kerry generate support that dubya can't generate? is this a rhetorical question? a joke? do you honestly think that kerry will be treated the same way that dubya has been treated? i have no doubt that the first time kerry appears at the U.N. he will get a standing ovation. the world is starving for new leadership in the U.S. As soon as Kerry wins, other nations on the sidelines will be quick to jump on board (at least monetarily). how do i know? how is this just common sense when you go from a hated man to a man who is open about working with the world in the war on terror?<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
Which once again gets me back to the point that the counties of the world and the UN are OK letting Iraqi's suffer, the children of Iraq suffer and get blown up just to spite Bush.<br><br>My favorite quote from Bush the other day when asked about Kerry's 4-point plan...<br>"He presented a 4-point plan of exactly what we are doing now."<br><br>All you are claiming is that Kerry will do it better because he's not Bush. I absolutly do not trust Kerry to go ahead with Iraq. His objective if he gets in office will be what is the fastest way to cut and run out of Iraq.<br><br>So, what are the reasons right now that these "other countires" are giving that they are refusing to provide training to iraqi troops inside their own borders? Because Bush is in office? Great, so they are willing to let Iraqis die because Bush is in office. Real morality there. Real commitment to human-rights.<br>Right now Iraqis are being blown up APPLYING to be trained. They are not being blown up whilst training. We are supposed to fly people to these countries so they can apply to be trained? What do we do while they are in line in Iraq to apply to apply to be trained?<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>i have no doubt that the first time kerry appears at the U.N. he will get a standing ovation.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Just goes to prove what a partisan, ineffective body the UN is.<br>I'm just thrilled that I'm expected to vote for Kerry because the UN supports his candidacy. Given the corruption in the UN this just another reason why I don't vote for him.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
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