When Kerry calls the President "incompetent" and "arrogant", it's "blistering criticism", when President Bush criticizes Kerry, he's "attacking." <br><br>The Pro-Kerry dance continues with Dan Rather, even as his tail is tucked firmly between his legs.<br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
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I also read recently that Kerry's new strategy is to focus on Iraq. My opinion of that strategy is that we're getting another 6 six years of Senator Kerry, but I actually watched 60 minutes yesterday (because they were interviewing the Patriots head coach) and they were doing a sky is falling report on Iraq, Hmmm glad to see they're keeping lock step in their strategies. <br><br>
He doesn't even have a real position on Iraq past, present or future. Today's "I wouldn't have ousted Saddam if I'd been in the Whitehouse" just add to his list of reversals on Iraq (see signature quote).<br><br>Of course other view this as thoughtful and multifaceted. Yikes.<br><br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by AfterTenSoftware on 09/20/04 08:54 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Tough Crowd with Colin Quinn:<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Quinn: "They're saying they're (expletive) forgeries but they're based on real stories."<br><br>Greg Giraldo: "Yeah, they're forgeries but they were real. It's kind of like, we know what happened but it's okay that it's a forgery. It's like 'Hey, we have video of the Governor of New Jersey blowing a guy at a rest station outside of.' You know 'Hey, it didn't happen but we know it probably did so it's okay.'"<br><br>Quinn: "When we see a movie it's based on a true story, you know."<br><br>Todd Barry: "That secretary is supposed to be 86, right? This is not relevant but she looked pretty good for 86."<br><br>Quinn: "She does, she looks hot."<br><br>Vinnie Brand: "There's going to be more documents. This won't be the end of it. There will be more documents, the guys not around to say whether he wrote it or not. And all the new documents will be signed by the dead guy."<br><br>Quinn: "No, I'm telling you right now, I just wish people would just admit the media is liberally biased except for like Fox News. But if Dan Rather would just go on and go ‘Look, I don't know, I happen to be liberally, myself that way. I'm Dan Rather.' None of this, all of this would go away because people don't care about this stupid story. But the fact is CBS would not have done this to John Kerry. They did it to Bush, I'm not saying he deserved it or not, but admit you're liberally biased, media. I'm in the media for 20 years. We all know it's 99.9% liberal. Let's just drop it. As long as you admit it, all of you. Go on your shows and movies and admit it. And then we'll drop the whole thing."<br><br>Jim Norton: "Andy Rooney one time was talking about the media being liberal and he said that Dan was transparently liberal, meaning Rather. And he wasn't trashing him, he was just saying that he is a transparently liberal guy and everybody freaked out. They were saying like that was a real breach and he shouldn't have said it. Liberals hate being called liberals. I don't know why. They just hate it." <p><hr></blockquote><p>
disarm does not equal oust except in talking points. i supported disarming saddam with more rigorous weapons inspections, though there doesn't appear to be any WMD arms. when kerry voted to authorize the use of force saddam invited the CIA in, but we chose war instead. that's a big difference.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
I guess the full quote is in order...<br>"George, I said at the time I would have preferred if we had given diplomacy a greater opportunity, but I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein, and when the President made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." (ABC News Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Columbia, SC, 5/3/03)<br><br>This was after war had started but before Howard Dean became the temporary shining democratic anti-War candidate. It is obvious in this quote Kerry is saying he supported the decision to go to war. He says he would have liked more diplomacy but that the Presidents decision to "disarm" Saddam was "right" nonetheless. Now, what decision did the President make after stopping diplomacy but before the war that could be considered a decision to "disarm" Saddam? None. The "decision" referred to in the quote is war.<br><br>It's simple really, at this time supporting the actual war was a very popular position to take. Dean was consistently anti-war and the democratic base was taking to it. Kerry simply switched his position when it became apparent being anti-war would be what was needed to win the nomination. He just switches to what is popular. I'm sure one of those positions is his true feeling on the matter but we really won't know which.<br><br>Given his history one would think that his anti-war stance would be his true feeling but doesn't that make it even worse when he is willing to sell out that conviction to be on the "popular" side of an issue?<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
kerry was wrong then, though i could easily see how my saying that would be used to say that i want saddam back in power. i don't. i didn't support the war, but i am glad that saddam is not in power. i think iraq and the U.S. may be worse off in the long run, though . . . if not already. <br><br>the first rule for any politician is to win and the best way to win is to represent the views of the most people. so, early in the primary, like you said, most politicians on the republican and democratic sides of the aisle were all too happy to support the war because the country had been tricked into thinking it was part of the war on terror. that's why the democrats lost so heavily in the 2002 elections . . . they couldn't differentiate themselves from republicans on this key issue. i think most democrats were opposed, but the sentiment in our country was that these were patriotic times to back the president and you just don't create waves when we're being patriots. fortunately, dean came along and made it okay for people on the left to speak more freely. there are even republicans who are speaking poorly about the choices we've made in the war in iraq. i suspect that's the case with kerry as well. i long for the days when a president can lead without using fear and patriotism as a mantra. i don't want to have to choose to be with him or against him; i just want to be an american who happens to speak out against a cause; not a person. unfortunately, that choice doesn't appear to be an option at the moment and i am clearly against the person and his cause(s).<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>the first rule for any politician is to win and the best way to win is to represent the views of the most people.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Seriously, I just haven't reached that level of cynicism. To me the first rule of a politician is to best present his own views and personal convictions and vision. Then, if those views MATCH the views of most people then that politician will get elected.<br><br>I cannot accept that we, as a nation, have to settle for a political body that is made of of bullsh!tters who will say anything to get my vote and I as an elector is tasked with trying to cut through the BS to try and figure out what this guy will REALLY do if I elect him. I know I have to some of that no matter what, but I can't accept that is the major part of my task as a voter.<br><br>So, who do I seek out? A politician with a consistent track record of stating his views and acting on those views. Then if those views fit with mine then they have my vote.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003
dean, it's obviously not just kerry. do you think the majority of the republican members of congress ran on a platform to increase gov't spending even beyond the military and iraqi stuff? not a chance in hell, but as a group they are doing it with the best of them. surely you don't support the social causes and other spending they are increasing, do you? would you call that a consistent republican track record of increasing all spending? the pressure to do what is politically popular is enormous so they all want to increase spending on this cause and that cause because that spending might buy some extra votes. these are guys who are supposed to be for smaller gov't, but they are right at home spending away with dubya. did you hear the 3 trillion dollars that dubya wants to spend that he highlighted in his convention speech? is this a republican or a democrat. heck, ever kerry hasn't proposed that much spending and his proposals include health care for all. does dubya's 2000 campaign rhetoric get a free pass from you or are you going to call him on it as well? <br><br>like i said, kerry and others were held hostage by the mood of the country. the dixie chicks felt the ramifications for being unpatriotic. national democrats were trying to reach out to dubya and bridge the gap -- be uniters, but dubya cast them aside and started the war. they slowly realized it was futile to try and that how they finally came to accept the right position.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
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