I don't see how you could champion a decision that is so completely without merit. Under state law, Nader cannot simply be bequeathed a position on the ballot. The party supporting him needs to qualify in Florida as a national party. Since the Reform Party does not qualify, Nader can't be on the ballot. Using a natural disaster to justify such a blatant political maneuver is slimy and disingenuous at best, election tampering at worst.<br><br>Jeb Bush and his state department have once again proven their disrespect for democracy.<br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey<br>
From that site: [color:blue]Analysts said most of the nearly 98,000 votes Nader got in Florida would have gone to Gore had Nader not been on the ballot.</font color=blue><br><br>That's curious. I wonder who the analysts are. According to a couple of professors I've heard on NPR, one from Florida and one from out west (don't remember where), who studied the Nader effect in their states, if those that voted for Nader hadn't, their votes would have been about evenly split between the two major parties. I wonder if having Nader on a ballot is like having a "none of the above" opportunity. <br><br>
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From Nader's own votenader.org:<br><blockquote>Moreover, a Democratic exit poll showed that Ralph’s votes came 25% from Republicans, 38% from Democrats, and the rest were nonvoters who would have only voted for Ralph.<br><br>In other words, more than sixty percent of Ralph’s voters would NOT have voted for Gore.</blockquote><br>Gore cost Gore the election. Looks like Kerry's going to do the same. I'd never vote for dubyah. Kerry hasn't given me a reason to vote for Kerry yet. And voting against a candidate is not the way I choose to exercise my vote anymore.<br><br>
that's still an approximation since not everyone answers and they only take a sample from some precincts. you'll also note that exit polling was used to call florida in gore's favor originally. even at face value, the percentage you supplied still equates to hundreds of votes that would have been made up between the two large candidates and this was an election decided by hundreds of votes.<br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Gore cost Gore the election<p><hr></blockquote><p>Exactly.<br><br>It's important to keep in mind that Gore didn't lose the election just because of Florida. Gore lost the election by failing to carry eleven states that Bill Clinton previously won in 1996:<br><br>Arizona<br>Arkansas<br>Florida<br>Kentucky<br>Louisiana<br>Missouri<br>Nevada<br>New Hampshire<br>Ohio<br>Tennessee <br>West Virginia<br><br>By comparison, Bush won every state carried by Bob Dole in 1996. If you look closely at the above list, you'll see that, most disappointing for the Democrats, Gore failed to carry his home state of Tennessee, Clinton's home state Arkansas and longtime Democratic stronghold West Virginia. If Gore had won any one of these three states, Florida would have never been an issue.<br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>
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Although I don't buy the argument that Nader pulled his votes completely out of Gore's constituency, he most definitely pulled more from Gore than Bush. The Green Party's own volunteers found that about half of their voters would have stayed home. About 30% to 40% would have voted for Gore. 10% to would have voted for Bush. I can't imagine Nader pulling anywhere near even this time around. Are Bush voters going to vote for a man with a Socialist Workers Party running mate? I kind of doubt it.<br><br>-- Charlie Alpha Roger Yankee Whiskey<br>
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p><br><br>Jeb Bush and his state department have once again proven their disrespect for democracy.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>As have the democrats with their meddlings to get Nader off the ballot.<br><br>Pretty lame of both sides to make such a worry over Nader. Just goes to show how weak both platforms have become.<br><br>
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