I know, I know, I found the story on Drudge so it can't possible be true, you know, because it's from Drudge, but interesting none the less.<br><br>Check out these documents...<br>http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf<br>http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay19.pdf<br>http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust1.pdf<br>http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardaugust18.pdf<br><br>Which is a copy of the memos used on the 60 minutes report.<br><br>It's from 1972! Notice anything unusual about it?<br><br>Proportional font?<br>Superscripts?<br><br>Hey, go open word and type...<br>"Report to the 111th F.I.S"<br>What automatically happend to the "th"?<br><br>Typed in 1972? Hmmmm, makes one wonder.<br>(BTW, Killian died about 20 years ago, so we can't ask him.)<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

Interesting. Wouldn't it be easy enough to get a some memos from this guy's files about normal stuff and compare? He seems to write plenty of memos (even to himself for filing) so that shouldn't be too hard to check.<br><br>Typewriter trivia:<br><br>In 1944, IBM designs the first typewriter with proportional spacing.<br><br>What if this guy had a brother in law who is a vice-president over at IBM? Stranger things can happen. After thirty years his brother in law might have even given him one. My brother in law is a vice president at IBM and I get nothing. <br><br><br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

Hmmm, interesting. What's your take on the superscripted "th" in two of the memos. In the other two the "th"s are seperated from the numbers they are modifiying, which seems wierd that a military guy writing a memo would bother to put a space in there. You know like this for example...<br>"I work on 12 th street and will be at your location on the 21 st"<br><br>Doesn't that seem unusual?<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

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Aren't these documents released by the White House under the Freedom of Information act? They have been released to the press, not just CBS. Is it CBS or the White House that is implied to have faked the docs? <br><br>

No these were documents either the Boston Globe or CBS uncovered, I don't know which. They did not originate at the White House.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

More hmmmm. This is a cut and paste from a blog I found on the subject...<br>------------------<br>9/9/2004: Bush Guard Documents: Forged<br><br>I opened Microsoft Word, set the font to Microsoft’s Times New Roman, tabbed over to the default tab stop to enter the date “18 August 1973,” then typed the rest of the document purportedly from the personal records of the late Lieutenant Colonel Jerry B. Killian.<br><br>And my Microsoft Word version, typed in 2004, is an exact match for the documents trumpeted by CBS News as “authentic.”<br><br>A screenshot of the “original” document as found at CBS:<br><br><br>A screenshot of my Microsoft Word document:<br><br><br>The spacing is not just similar—it is identical in every respect. Notice that the date lines up perfectly, all the line breaks are in the same places, all letters line up with the same letters above and below, and the kerning is exactly the same. And I did not change a single thing from Word’s defaults; margins, type size, tab stops, etc. are all using the default settings. The one difference (the “th” in “187th” is slightly lower) is probably due to a slight difference between the Mac and PC versions of the Times New Roman font, or it could be an artifact of whatever process was used to artificially “age” the document. (Update: I printed the document and the “th” matches perfectly in the printed version. It’s a difference between screen and printer fonts.)<br><br>There is absolutely no way that this document was typed on any machine that was available in 1973.<br><br>UPDATE at 9/9/04 10:57:34 am:<br><br>And this is not the only document that was apparently written with Microsoft Word; Jeremy Chrysler had the same idea and discovered another exact correspondence: Bush Guard Documents Forged?<br><br><br>----------------------------<br><br>I haven't visited the link at the bottom so I can't attest to its contents.<br><br>Hmmmm...<br><br><br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003

This question about what sort of typesets were available in 1973 should be easy enough to settle. <br><br>I don't think the experts at FreeRepublic or Drudge should be the final word before headlines scream "Fake!"<br><br>

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Drudge has offered no opinion on the validity of the documents, he's simply linking to a story. So I don't get the connection on the "final word" comment.<br><br>Dean Davis<br><br>-----<br>"I think it was the right decision to disarm Saddam Hussein. And when the president made the decision, I supported him, and I support the fact that we did disarm him." -- John Kerry (D) - May 3, 2003