Hey guys and gals, <br>Stan, Slava and I are currently in the process of adding some new features to MacMinute and we would like to get your thoughts on new forum software. After an exhaustive search, we kept coming back to phpbb. Please have a look at the features and let us know what you think. We are switching software for one main reason: integrated story feedback.<br><br>However, there may be some big drawbacks. How important are the following to you?<br><br>1) Old messages/threads<br>2) Usernames carried over<br>3) Your forum ranking (how many posts you have)<br><br>Names should not be a problem, nor messages, but ideally we would like to start from scratch. As you can imagine, it would be a helluva lot easier to start completely clean. We have known many Webmasters with large forums, and trying to convert is an absolute nightmare. I guess what we're saying is what is more important to you... story feedback and new forum features or your current status.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Larry<br>

I say go for the new board and start fresh and clean. <br><br><br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>We are switching software for one main reason: integrated story feedback.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Woohoo! Heck ya!<br><br>Just make sure you keep all the political posts. I'd be crushed to lose all these links<br><br>

Important:<br>- old messages<br>- username<br>- threads with new postings at the top of the listings<br>- flat reading mode - I want to read the whole thread without clicking up and down a hierarchy<br><br>Not important:<br>- ranking. It would be nice, but I wouldn't be upset if it didn't get transferred<br><br><br>

I just want my name!<br>hmmmm, integrated story feedback....nice timing....hehehe<br><br><br>For Mike

Ranking is not important to me.<br>Being able to retrieve old threads would be a shame to lose.<br><br>

Actually I'd like my name without the damn "_" in between the Optimus and the George...<br><br>or even just plain ol' George for that matter...

- Old threads- well, I won't be happy but I'm willing to sacrifice for the greater good<br>- Usernames- hell yes, but if post counts and rankings don't go with it, it won't be much problem to register again.<br><br>Here's my feeling on titles and rankings- let us make up our OWN. It's a lot more fun, and there's none of the inherent post-padding to get to the next level.<br><br>phpbb is a great software package- I use it for my own site, and I think people will adjust well as it's not all that much different from what we have now.<br><br>As long as the avatars stay! <br><br>Oh, and put the words 'bush' and 'kerry' on the censored list... <br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

Keeping Username and password is just fine for me.<br><br>Start from scratch. Keep it simple, this is just a chat board.<br><br>[color:blue]All your sock puppets are belong to us</font color=blue>

No avatars... no making up your own. In fact... DaddyMac has to change his name to DiaperHead and his post padding won't change because it will be stuck a poo-poo for his tenure at the new forum. I like it. <br><br>

And no more geeky pop-culture references in screen names.<br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

You mean no Son of OptimusGeorge or BumbleGeorge... man... I'll take GeorgieMac or DaddyGeorge then... HAHAHAHA!!! <br><br>

well, i'd hate to lose old messages most of all and really that's the only thing i'd hate to lose.<br><br>"Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a—you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And, therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities." dubya 8.6.04

graphic avatars, signatures and posting of inline photo's?<br>All these have made us a close knit community. Are these going to be allowed?<br><br><br>For Mike

1.) Not important<br>2.) Important<br>3.) Not important<br><br>and from elsewhere (please don't start a flamewar with this...)<br><br>Stan - How about a separate forum for political posts? If not permanently...how about till the Elections are over? Or even better...how about a new lounge forum for NON-political discussion? <br><br>Just to be clear, I don't think every topic needs its own forum, but lately the lounge is being saturated with the stuff...and I come here for diversion from reality.<br><br>Thanks for your consideration,<br><br>Alan Onymous<br><br><br>

The Usernames would be good to keep just for identity purposes.<br>Maybe you can establish a new ranking system for the forum regulars.<br><br>But by all means upgrade, UPGRADE!! <br><br>

How about archiving these old posts if you decide to keep them?<br><br>And then you can work on them at your leisure, and let us in the new part.<br><br>I agree with what someone said about titles..let us make our own.<br><br>And AlAnon has a good idea.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I come here for diversion from reality.<p><hr></blockquote><p>A-frickin'-men on that! <br><br>On the subject at hand...I'm with DaddyMac. I want the avatars/sigs to stay and the ability to make up our own rankings. I don't mind re-registering...as long as I can still be ezyrider. Or I dunno maybe I'll just go with Mark...who knows.<br><br>

Important<br><br>Old messages<br>Username carry over<br><br>not important<br><br>rank<br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>

Oh I don't know about username carryover--it would be fun to see the scramble for old names. I'd sign up as MattMac112, and then MattMac would suddenly become a liberal, and vice versa. Talk about keeping the pot a-boil! <br><br>

<br><br><br>oh wait...that might be misconstrued...<br><br>Yoyo, I laughed pretty good at your post..thanks!<br><br>

I'd sign up as yoyo52, and post nothing but sound clips of disgusting bodily functions...<br><br>LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!<br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

I'd sign up as DaddyMac so that I could use all those cool avatars that he used to use.<br><br>

Almost forgot to ask.<br><br>Are we still going to have a link to the cafe on the news page, or is the rug going to be jerked out from under us <br><br>[color:blue]All your sock puppets are belong to us</font color=blue>

Here ya go...<br><br><br>[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/petem/avatars/brothers/brother46.jpg[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/petem/avatars/brothers/brother45.jpg[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/petem/avatars/brothers/brother42.jpg[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/petem/avatars/brothers/brother40.jpg[/img][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/petem/avatars/brothers/brother32.jpg[/img]<br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

I'd sign up as Winston Churchill...so I could post things like "I’m Winston Churchill, ooo, would you like some tea? I would because I’m Winston Churchill. Would you like a krumpett? I would because I’m Winston Churchill. Would you like to wear nickers? I would because I’m…”<br><br><br><br>

"How about a separate forum for political posts? "<br><br>YES<br>YES<br>YES<br><br><br>

RE: Cloistered Politics/War discussion area.<br><br>I have to say this is a good idea.<br><br>We started ONE thread over in the Adobe Photoshop Lounge and called it "The Stupid Politics and War Thread." It's raison d'etre was to keep all of that stuff out of other threads, where its presence was causing a lot of great discussions to explode in flames.<br><br>It has worked remarkably well, because visitors knew where to go if they wanted to engage in that sort of stuff, and where to stay away from if they didn't.<br><br>Recently, however, one particularly contentious participant got way out of hand with personal attacks. He was put on Read-Only status, and the thread was locked. But, the thread lasted for a couple months (from 18 June until earlier this week) and fomented a lot of good discussion (2200 posts), despite the heat it generated at times, and it pretty much kept the crap out of other threads.<br><br>Since that person's banishment (he'll be reinstated...he's just being given a "spanking" for awhile), another Politics thread has been started. I expect it will last a long time as well. And because the participants know that political arguments are to be contained there, the rest of the Lounge has been much friendlier to navigate for those who wish to sidestep the arguments.<br><br>

I have to wonder if Cian (Afterglow) had Mr. Belvedere in the back of his mind when he created that AvatarIcon?<br><br><IMG SRC=http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:8an-l4pcf-IJ:www.afterophelia.com/hewitt.jpg><br><br><IMG SRC=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v392/petem/avatars/joker-fficon.gif><br><br>

So... when is all this going to happen?<br><br>

Could be- he was quite the kidder! <br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

No sweat, do what you gotta' do.<br><br>

The first time I saw Cian's collection of AvatarIcons I immediately thought of Christopher Hewitt when I saw "The Joker."<br><br>I'm gonna guess coincidence, though.<br><br>

I thought it was supposed to be Ron Jeremy.<br><br>

hahahahahahahahahahahah, now that made me laugh.<br><br><br>For Mike

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I thought it was supposed to be Ron Jeremy.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Well, that's certainly telling.<br><br>What, then, does it say about my visual association? More creepier?<br><br>

Thanks for all the great feedback.<br><br>We will try to convert all the old posts into the new system.<br><br>I think it is a cool idea to start a poll and let you guys come up with the ranking titles.<br><br>Hopefully we can import usernames/passwords, but if not I'm sure you guys can easily register the same names you have now or different ones. And if there are any problems, we can sort them out so everyone gets their old name even if someone else registers it first.<br><br>Avatars and inline image posting will be part of the new forum. Although I don't know about signatures... I for one get very sick of seeing the very large image ones.<br><br>A separate section just for political posts will be a must. Matt and Bryan won't be able to shove their Bush-loving banter on me anymore. <br><br>And yes, there will still be a prominent link to the Cafe from the MM news page... hahaha.<br><br>The new forum should be coming prolly by the end of next week. We have a couple things we are doing to the MM news page first.<br><br>Anything else?<br><br>

I agree, if you can't say it with your avatar why mess with a signature, it just crowds the visual space as it is.<br><br>Good-bye little car. <br><br>

What I had in mind when I said 'make up your own' is to just have a custom title field in our profile somewhere, and we can fill in our own if we chose to.<br><br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

I kind of like the poll idea though. I can't think of anything good for my custom title.<br><br><br>For Mike

How about a size limit in pixels and kbs for the signature. You can set up prefs so it won't upload anything not in the specifications. Is that possible?<br><br><br>For Mike

Ah, I gotcha. Well, either way... you guys decide if you want to make rankings for everyone or if you want to be able to make up your own individual one (if that is even possible with the new software).<br><br>

Well, either way. The only way I think it's possible with phpbb software is for a moderator or admin to do it- which would be very time consuming for anyone in that position.<br><br>Of course, if you had some *cough* Daddymac *cough* extra moderators to help out...<br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>What I had in mind when I said 'make up your own' is to just have a custom title field in our profile somewhere, and we can fill in our own if we chose to.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Yeah...that's the ticket! That's what I meant too. More creative!<br><br>I guess it's bye-bye to Gogo...<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>"I for one get very sick of seeing the very large image ones."<p><hr></blockquote><p>I second that emotion.<br><br>And Lori has the right idea about limitations. If that can be implemented, I'd be a happy camper. File size isn't an issue for those of us with rippin' fast connections, but can be for dial-uppers and some folks outside the U.S. who have to pay per minute or per MB of D/L.<br><br>And I'm sure I'm not alone when I express my utter loathing of gigantic (height X width) signature images, and/or line-after-line-after-line of text signatures.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Matt and Bryan won't be able to shove their Bush-loving banter on me anymore.<p><hr></blockquote><p>DAMN YOU Larry! <br><br>Sounds like a good idea . . . <br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>

I agree. It doesn't have to be restricted in software as long as everyone knows the restriction. Then if someone violates the guideline, we can jump all over 'em and verbally rip 'em to shreds! <br><br>

Larry,<br><br>Outstanding...phpbb is awesome. I wouldn't mind starting over from scratch, even if it means we lost everything and had to re-register. <br><br>The Political forum is a great idea...that way we can rumble with the liberals without offending everybody else <br><br>

Individual titles would be much better than rankings..then no post padding just to "one-up" or be a "master"<br><br>

The new forum should be coming prolly by the end of next week<br><br>Damn, looks like I got some major work to do so I can reach 'Grand Master' before I lose my rank!!! <br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

Just to think, no one will have ever reached the "Legend" status. <br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Just to think, no one will have ever reached the "Legend" status<p><hr></blockquote><p>Don't count on it... I still have a full week!!! <br><br>

To heck with the rankings... give a custom (user definable) title field, or just skip them all together.<br><br>Avatars are a keeper!<br><br>Sig pics: I would like to see something like MacNN. They don't have a "hard-coded" limit in the software, but they have a sticky message at the top that says:<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>- 200 pixels wide by 50 pixels tall maximum<br>- not animated<br>- under 10KB<br>- if you use an image, you can only have ONE line of text with it. this applies to all signature images except those that are exceptionally small.<br>- 4 lines of text maximum for a text only signature. this includes blank lines between text.<br>- must not contain any offensive material. this includes insulting fellow members.<br><br>We, of course, reserve the right to change these guidelines if this place becomes a bit too gaudy. You may also have your signature privileges revoked if you repeatedly violate the above rules.<p><hr></blockquote><p>As far as the usernames, if it's easy to transfer them, great. If not, we can always re-register.<br><br>And might I add a big, stinking fat THANKYOU for investigating and finally upgrading the software. I know I'm not alone when I say we've been waiting! I also appreciate you letting us know in advance so there isn't another MC-style whine & b!tch-fest like they had over there! <br><br><br>

HA HA right... this I have to see. <br><br>

They're also putting in a political forum, so now you won't have anything to bitch about! j/k<br><br>

shutup you dumb@ss moron! Bush sucks! <br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Dumb@ss moron is copyright 2004 PCGuy <br><br>

Actually, after chatting with Stan, it might be a bit longer. Plus, we don't want to be like Apple and announce it too early and keep delaying it. <br><br>

Delayed? WHAT? You stinking rotten b@stards... how dare you delay it without consulting with us all first! OMG... I'm leaving here, this place sucks, this forum is dying, I hate the colors, I can't find the links, where are the pictures, who did this, change it back... THIS SUCKS!<br><br><br>Ooops, er, um... wrong forum, sorry! <br><br>

How can you do this to us? Where will we go? Our lives.....they'll never be the same...we all go back for decades...you're jerking the rug out from under us! <br><br>

So that means the beginning of Octobuary?<br><br><br>For Mike

No later than Janusmarch!<br><br>

I DEMAND answers! This is unacceptable. You cannot disolve this commun . . .Ok, so you're not disolving the community. I just like being melodramatic. <br><br>****************<br><br>[color:blue]VOTE</font color=blue>[color:red] for President George W. Bush on November 2, 2004</font color=red>

Yeah!!! Anything that puts "Newbie" after MacGizmo's name is a winner! <br><br>

Woohoo! I WILL have some time as 'Grand Master' after all.<br><br>God bless you. <br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

My vote<br>Separate political forum<br>Old posts somewhere even if not available right away<br>User names no problem to re-register<br>ranks que sera sera whatever's easiest for TPTB<br>Keep graphics etc. maybe a limit on sizes for dial ups<br>Maybe require links for movies<br>Allow sound files under a size limit of course I suppose we could do links there as well<br>Keep sigs but size limit<br>... and did I mention political forum<br><br>oh and thanks for asking<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Old posts somewhere even if not available right away<p><hr></blockquote><p>You mean a "Classic forum?" <br><br>

Well I was thinking archive but OK! Just surprise me.<br><br>

Old messages: very important<br>Username: I'd like to keep mine, but won't be a problem to change it.<br>Ranking: non important.<br><br>Thanks!<br><br>

Hey, Larry!<br><br>1) not very important, but might be nice to have an archive regardless ...<br><br>2) As long as we can re-register using our old handles, not a huge deal ...<br><br>3) not important at all ...<br><br>Personally, I find that avatars, sigs and inline images are important to retain, even if you feel the need to restrict sizes ... there's just too much personality and communication going on with those to see them go away ...<br><br>And user-defined titles would be fun as well, but not essential =)<br><br>Thanks for asking!<br><br>***matt<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...

I think it is the content that is important so whatever works technically to keep it all going I give my vote to<br><br>Need a laugh? Visit CreatorDude.com

Just one suggestion on the titles. I think anyone who signed up on 4/20/02 and later should have the title "newbie". Everyone who is 4/19/02 and earlier should be titled, "Wise Sage" or "Grand Wizard" or something similar. <br><br><br><br><br>luciferase

Sounds good to me!!!<br><br>

Unlike my thoughts on them at the new MacWorld forums (where I actually prefer NOT to have any images at all), they have a reason... they don't have a "Lounge" forum, so there's no reason for photos to be posted.<br><br>But here is a different story. I don't think this forum has ever been predominantly about Mac subjects, rather, it's been all about family & friends - and pictures are wanted, no matter how long it takes to download them. In THIS atmosphere, I would hate to see photos & avatars go away – though it doesn't really matter in the long run.<br><br>

Ooops, I forgot to mention...<br><br>Having access to old thread would be nice - even if these forums are kept around, but all locked so no new posts can be made in them.<br><br>

I agree. I look back at some for reference, there is no need to bump them to the top. If we want to comment on something in one we can just start a new thread.<br><br>

Unlike my thoughts on them at the new MacWorld forums (where I actually prefer NOT to have any images at all), they have a reason... they don't have a "Lounge" forum, so there's no reason for photos to be posted.<br><br><br>Well, I think the ability should be there, although I don't see why it's so hard to just put a limit on file size or something...<br><br>I actually had an instance come up where I wanted to show someone what a certain type of cable looked like, but I had to throw up a hyperlink instead... Ugh.<br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

Hey back at cha.. My little contribution on the matter is only that I enjoy the different signatures that some of the folks here have..the little sayings..the pictures..for myself who is computer challenged I enjoy those who change them often,,Giz, iRocks, are good examples, the mood and personality of the signitures are fun...kind of nice to see..but I am game for what ever transpires..Cheers<br><br>

For me old posts are important, but if I may suggest don't settle for phpbb. It's a great forum software, but you can do so much more with Drupal for example. I do have phpbb on my site, but my site is just so much smaller than macminute cafe.<br><br>If you do go for phpbb you may want to consider to add the attachement mod, so that people can upload images and files to share even if they don't have their own servers. This way you can also make sure that the links will not brake if the individuals move them from their servers. You can also allow people to upload their avatars to your servers with phpbb. I think that's a very useful feature, although you need to consider if you can afford all the bandwidth, but I guess you have an unlimited account.<br><br>I would not want to loose old posts and usernames, but if you have to let it be.<br><br>Let me know if you need any help with the phpbb installation, especially the attachement mod. How about themes? Do you already have a designer to do it for you?<br><br>

I don't think attachments are a good idea...<br><br>Some sites allow that, but they also make it a "pay" thing.<br><br>ARStechnica uses a pretty interesting forum:<br>http://episteme.arstechnica.com/6/ubb.x<br><br>Says it is Infopop but the link is ubb.x<br><br>Infopop's address is here<br><br>

Nothing in the grand scheme of things is important except old posts. There's a lot of cool hints and communal tech support in there that should remain searchable.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I think anyone who signed up on 4/20/02 and later should have the title "newbie".<p><hr></blockquote><p>Hey, wait a minute!<br>I'm no NEWBIE !!<br><br>

Go for the new and start clean! <br><br>KateMate

For what it's worth:<br><br>Wipe the slate and start clean - there's bad stuff along with the good; flush it all out and start afresh. Let users re-registers their old handles if they so desire.<br><br>Name your own rank/classification.<br><br>A separate forum for politics.<br><br>Attachments, personal avatars are cool, but specify reasonable file size limitations so people don't abuse the privilege.<br><br>Allow users to choose from a decent array of themes.<br><br>Built-in speel checking (;->)) for those who can't, or won't, do it via their own Macs.<br><br>Lastly, thanks for asking.<br><br>(:->))<br><br>max<br>[color:red]EGG</font color=red><br>Moments & more

9/4/02! Newb.<br><br><br><br>luciferase is a four nineteener

I have to say, out of all of the message boards i've seen and used i think this forum looks the best. However I'm fine with whatever you want to go with. <br><br>1) I would like to just keep this forum up but locked unless you're able to get old threads into the new board easily<br>2) We can always reregister names<br>3) Rank doesn't matter, I'll be back up to 6K soon enough ;)<br><br>And the political forum is grate thing, thanks! <br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> I don't think attachments are a good idea...<br><br>Some sites allow that, but they also make it a "pay" thing.<br><br>ARStechnica uses a pretty interesting forum:<br>http://episteme.arstechnica.com/6/ubb.x<br><br>Says it is Infopop but the link is ubb.x<br><br>Infopop's address is here<p><hr></blockquote><p>well i agree if it's a pay thing, forget it. but it doesn't have to be a pay thing. it's a free mod. same as the whole phpbb.<br><br>

But if it's free, that's taking up even more server space. I don't think it's going to happen.<br><br>

what you can do (and i did too) is to limit the max space for a user and the whole board, so you can make sure that your forum doesn't get flooded with two hundred 300MB files every day. you can allow like 5MB per head. that's enough for a year for most users for uploading screenshots and ocassional digipicts and this forum doesn't have more than 100 very active users, so that makes it 500MB for attachements for a year. that's not a big of a deal. it doesn't cost much, and easy to maintain.<br><br>

That may be a fine plan, Ira...to limit attachments, in whichever way.<br><br>But really: How many people DON'T have access to some free serverr space along with their ISP account? (I'm asking...I don't really have actual figures on this question, of course) I'm operating under the belief that most people do, and they can load their images there and serve them up inline with their forum replies themselves. No real detriment to MM's servers.<br><br>Barring that, there are plenty of places online to house images that will allow direct hotlinking and display on forums like this one.<br><br>Setting up a forum's permissions to allow attachments is kind of an antiquated procedure, if you ask me.<br><br>

It's Open Source. It's Free.<br><br>Go for it. <br><br>

Use e-mail verifiable registration and keep track of IP addresses!<br>Do away with all the Sock-Puppeteers and Pretenders!<br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>

No need for that... people have a sense of humor here!<br><br>

personally i pay no attention to political opinion .. i look at the person underneath.<br><br>as for the rest .. do what you will ... as i know you will anyway<br><br>er.. can I bring my socks? .. they don't smell .. really ;)<br><br><br>but where will we be when the future comes?

Now that we've all read it....UNPIN THY THREAD!<br><br><br><br><br>

Start clean/fresh.... The software will run zippier. Everyone get's a clean slate. However, allow us to go back and search these threads... There's so many valuable things in there...friendships have been formed over time in there. Isn't that possible?<br><br>

It's probably possible to just provide a link to these forums as they stand on the last day of existence, with everything locked down but still searchable...<br><br>That's up to the Men in Red though...<br><br>[color:white]God speed, mikeb. Go drive your Boxster in the big Autobahn in the sky...</font color=white>

I ear ya.<br><br>

I want to be iRock in my next life. She has a nice MG. <br><br>

Hee hee technically it's not mine. I have the best of both worlds - a studmuffin, driver & mechanic. The butthead. It's his weekend and he has been driving it all over while I am stuck at work. Luckily we have warm fall weather and mild winters. So I will have a chance when our weekends line up. He will really have it running good come spring.<br><br>

You look good sitting in the passenger seat, too! It adds that touch of class. <br><br>Now if I can just get my studmuffin to let me drive his new Silverado W4D... <br><br>

Now that sounds nice. Those new Chevys have some nice lines to them.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Start clean/fresh.... The software will run zippier. Everyone get's a clean slate. However, allow us to go back and search these threads... There's so many valuable things in there...friendships have been formed over time in there. Isn't that possible?<p><hr></blockquote><p>That is definitely where I am leaning Beniitec. And yes, it is possible.<br><br>

i guess that's what it's called when everytime someone post or replies it goes to the stop and may stay there quite a while! :P<br><br>

:)<br><br>

so, let me get this straight as i think it's finally sinking in . . . we're going to get new forums? <br><br><br>--<br>one of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors. -Plato

We are doing the coding now. It shouldn't take long at all. We'll lock the old forum software from new posts and leave it accessible for archiving purposes.<br><br>Sound OK?<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Stan<br><br>

Sounds OK to me.<br><br>

OK, the new forum software is installed and running nicely. It is going to take us a few days to get the design templates done, but it won't be long now.<br><br>Just wanted to keep y'all in the loop. <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Stan<br><br>

WHAT? New forums?!!! WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US?!!!<br><br>Anyway, here's hoping for a black template! Er, I guess I mean style sheet...<br><br>[color:red]C'mon...you know me.</font color=red>

Grrrr.... <br><br>Stan<br><br>

dark theme for me too!<br><br>

Uhg... harder to read. Harder on the eyes. But, if it's user-selectable, I don't care.<br><br><br>

But, if it's user-selectable, I don't care<br><br>Exactly! <br><br>[color:red]C'mon...you know me.</font color=red>

Any updates as to when we might see the new software go live?<br><br>

?<br><br>

He's too busy looking up old computer systems <br><br>I bet he won't unpin this either! <br><br>

perhaps we should ask louder? <br><br>

what<br><br>

do<br><br>

you<br><br>

think?<br><br>

Please do not change.<br><br>

Uhhhh, it's too late for that Foot... its GOING TO CHANGE!<br><br>

So, how is the update going?<br><br>[color:purple]We're building up or tearing down In everything we do;<br>Are you on the construction gang Or on the wrecking crew? - Anon</font color=purple>

whoa..you found it!<br><br>Yeah, when can we expect a change?<br><br>

Yeah, we need to know how long we have to pad! <br><br>

I don't care too much about the new software, but I sure am glad to see this thread back at the top where it belongs! <br><br>

How can you not care when you haven't seen it?<br><br>Course, I guess it'll probably take as long as those mugs did <br><br>

Exactly. I have less than 300 to make Master with this name! <br><br>

Hurry, hurry! Pad, pad! <br><br>

This update will have to be amazing, at least if I judge from the time it takes to set up. Also, I realize this is not first priority.<br><br>

bump <br><br>

I raise your bump <br><br>[color:purple]We're building up or tearing down In everything we do;<br>Are you on the construction gang Or on the wrecking crew? - Anon</font color=purple>

Well, perhaps they are using that guy in Russia to do some special coding to it like here?<br><br>

Slava has probably been quite busy, considering Unsanity just released a FontCard upgrade and I know they have "something" else in the works...<br><br>

Ahh..didn't know he also worked for Unsanity.<br><br>

I see your bump and raise a grind <br><br>

Yep. Unsanity has a "blog" section on their web site, by the way. So if you ever want to get the skinny on stuff they're working on, check it out.<br><br>

I'll take two <br><br>[color:purple]We're building up or tearing down In everything we do;<br>Are you on the construction gang Or on the wrecking crew? - Anon</font color=purple>

bump<br><br>

I associate this with the Word Association thread. So bump.<br><br>

Hehe..yeah, it needed a bump<br><br>

With all these bumps in here, I'm beginning to feel like I need an ice-pack just to come in here! <br><br>

Duck!<br><br>

When<br><br>

the<br><br>

hell<br><br>

is<br><br>

the <br><br>

point at which Gizmo shuts up?<br><br><br><br>[color:red]C'mon...you know me.</font color=red>

upgrade<br><br>

going<br><br>

live?<br><br>

Stan? Larry?<br><br>

Hello????<br><br>

some people are impatient? :)<br><br>

bump<br><br>(Thanks for the reminder, Giz )<br><br>

It's coming soon....<br><br>I think Stan and company went to the Steve Jobs school of shipping <br><br>

status please<br><br>