i can tell you that i really dislike dubya and i can point to the facts that caused me to dislike him greatly. i would not be fair if i wrote a critique of dubya, but i think i could easily be honest, so i am not sure what moore has given up by admitting what he did. he has a point of view and that's true of every documentary that exists. obviously, you *greatly* disagree with his POV, eh? <br><br>i doubt you are his target audience, though. i think he is trying to rally the democrats (the choir). plus, this will likely be a powerful tool of persuasion for those individuals who are undecided and might help to energize those individuals who like to complain about gov't but don't tend to vote to make a difference. who knows at this point?<br><br>----<br>smile!

They ofcourse love it. It already won the Palme d'Or at Cannes. And will take an Oscar as did BFC in the category Best Documenatry. What a joke. What these limosine liberals fail to grasp is that if they get their wish they don't get to keep all the goodies the have.<br><br><br><br><br> Vote Yay Vote Nay [i]Now watch this drive

Like the younger voters that have never voted. The old school republicans and neo cons will not be swayed by anything.<br><br>

i think it's funny that all of these "millionaires" you are railing against are for a gov't that taxes them more and not you, but you guys who aren't "millionaires" fight tooth and nail to protect them at your own expense (increased property taxes, increased user fees, increased state taxes, increased everything else). i wonder if they are using some weird jedi mind trick on you? <br><br>----<br>smile!

As I've said, even my very liberal brother has a tough time with Moore's aversion to coming somewhere near the neighborhood of truthfulness. And he IS the target demo. <br><br>****************<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I saw Micheal Moore on a few interviews recently .. The Daily Show .. And he admited he's not fair in his movie.<p><hr></blockquote><p>of course he's not fair. being fair would go much further, like investigating the real reasons behind the war and the real intentions that motivated these lies. Moore said he's not fair because he wants to soften the effect of his movie. if you are Bush&Co fan it's gonna be hard to stay one after the movie. must be extremely disturbing for those people.<br><br>

well, i guess i'll soon see how much moore has learned from the BFC movie and the accusations made against his claims in that movie. i would hope that he was more careful this time around. and, it sounds like he took the extra effort of double-checking his facts this time around and even deleted stuff from the movie that he couldn't twice verify as truth. i'll give him the benefit of the doubt until i see it myself tonight.<br><br>----<br>smile!

It really comes down to this: Bush made his case for removing Saddam from power (as did Clinton, Kerry and others). Either you believe Bush or you don't. I believe the President. Now, can I criticize the way we've conducted this war since it began? Maybe, and I say maybe because we don't get, from our media, the full story of what's going on in Iraq. By this I mean we hear nothing of the good being done in Iraq. We get our daily Abu Grahib update, but hear nothing of torture videos that were being sold on the streets of Baghdad. We didn't get daily updates the uncovering of mass graves, testimony to the levels of evil we eradicated from Iraq and how appreciative Iraqi's are. Instead, in a three month period, our New York Times runs 140 Abu Grahib stories, and only nine mentions of toture committed by Saddam Hussein. <br><br>Terrorist insurgents have mounted a broad new offensive in Iraq. They can't win militarily—but can they repeat the North Vietnames feat of 1968, exploiting our reporters to demoralize America politically.<br><br><br>****************<br><br>

"...neo cons will not be swayed by anything."<br><br>And the paleo libs will?<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>like investigating the real reasons behind the war and the real intentions that motivated these lies.<p><hr></blockquote><p>I'm curious, what do the anti-Bushers/anti-Iraq warers think the "real" reason(s) is/are?<br><br>Just your opinions, no need to link to any background and I'm not even in any mood to present any personal challenges to the opinions, in this thread. I'm just curious.<br><br><br><br>Dean Davis