Lesh<br>Don't take it as a criticle feed back.<br>More like a spark to get more posters envolved in this thread.<br><br>Keep in mind that its all just my opinions anyway. However I did learn from many personal directors on what to look for.<br><br>
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
She shoulda grabbed the rakes out of his zen garden. That would have brought production to a standstill.<br><br>Cheers, iRock<br>There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.<br>Jeremy S. Anderson
I loved your suggestions Lesh. I did a lot of interviewing for a period of time. I looked for people who were "selling" themselves and their talents. I liked confidence and if someone told me they were good, and their portfolio backed that up, that made points with me.<br><br>I remember being part of an interview panel and we asked this one gal "why should we hire you". She popped right back with "because I am good at what I do and I love doing it!" We hired her. She was good. In no time at all, she eventually went way higher than my position in our Department and became one of my best friends. She was good. She knew it. And, she sold us on that fact!<br><br>I retired. She now works for a newspaper in my home town and she tried to quit a couple of times. They just won't let her. She teaches at the local community college. She has a small business helping out others with their computers. She works 60-80 hours "part time" for the newspaper.<br><br>I suppose different employers look for different things from interviews for various reasons. I still think yours is the right track -- honesty and confidence.<br><br><br>
Lesh<br>Don't take it as a critic[al]le feed back.<br>More like a spark to get more posters e(i)nvolved in this thread.<br>----------<br>Carp, the comments you make below are critical -- not even worded nicely -- face it, you owe Lesh an apology, and I think you tried, but not very well, with "a spark to get more posters envolved in this thread." You just might have been able to do it a little kinder or gracefully without ripping to shreds the suggestions Lesh put forth. Just on opinion, Carp.<br><br>Carp critique:<br><br>•The person comes off begging for the job.<br><br>• (assuming) right at the gate is very bad bad.<br><br>•To[o] general in its nature - <br><br>• to remind the interviewer can be seen as a[n] insult by some.<br><br>•This insults the many others - plus its another assum[p]tion.<br><br>•Hope as a word in this case has a defeatish tone to it - <br><br>•Drop the word hope<br><br>"However I did learn from many personal directors on what to look for."<br><br>That is good for you. Lesh probably has interviewing skills/experience too. I think we'd all like the same respect you'd like.<br><br><br><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by KateSorensen on 10/06/02 00:38 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
One thing about this situation is that not only is it a small company and he knows her from me, he is also network administrator and has talked to me with just fun Mac talk. And a little help with my computer and hers. He told me he thought the interview went well. I know when she was over at his desk when she brought her application in they were laughing and talking. My supervisor is a very jovial person and puts people at ease. He never humiliates anyone for a mistake but yet everyone tries to do a good job for him. He instills a lot of loyalty. He told me he asked her if there is one thing she has learned in her work experience.(WalMart, she hates it but gets good reviews) She said, "Keep busy all the time and everyone leaves you alone." He said it was honest and he really liked it. He asked her if she could be patient with the ad reps when they don't always provide us with all the info we need. She looked at him and said, "Do you know my Mom? You have to be very patient with her. It taught me a lot." <br>This is only her second job, she is 19. Still a lot to learn but I think she is doing OK. BTW her mom is my only sister and she is not kidding about the patience part. And she is an only child so has spent a lot of time with Mom.<br><br>Cheers, iRock<br>There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence.<br>Jeremy S. Anderson
I was 40 years old when I got my first real "job" other than being in the Navy WAVES for 5 years.<br><br>The interviewer said that the person in the job would be doing a lot of typing, almost exclusively. I said enthusiastically, "I have always LOVED to type! After learning how to use a typewriter in highschool, I bought one and have never been without one."<br><br>The interviewer smiled and said, "Let me write that down 'loves to type'"<br><br>The job I was applying for? A position in the word processing center (typing pool -- dirty words never used by the people in the WPC).<br><br>We laughed as she wrote it down and the rest of the interview was light, happy and fun. She remembered me and I certainly liked her cheerfulness and enjoyed working there for 4 years.<br><br>You and she will figure out something to reply. Short, sweet, sincere, honest, etc.<br><br>
I was 15 or so when I got my first job, at a Macdonald's--possibly the worst job ever invented. Dealing with food is bad enough--grease and heat everywhere; but then everyone had to work window at some point. I hated having to deal with people. You know how it goes, cause you probably do it (I know I do) everytime you go to a place like Macdonald's. You know exactly what's on the menu because you've been there a zillion time before, but nonetheless, you stand in front of the cash register and read and reread the menu. I can't figure out why I do it, and when I was working behind the cash register it drove me mad when people did it.<br><br>When I was getting ready to leave the job so I could go on to college and better things, the owner of the franchise tried to talk me into staying there as a manger. College was pretty useless, he said. Right! <br><br>Great wits are sure to madness near allied.--John Dryden, "Absalom and Achitophel"
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Your right.<br>However my comments was at the letter and not directed at Lesh personally. I never word nicely anyway - apologies for my grammer.<br><br>I do have experiance.<br>I owned a SeaFood restaurant<br>I own a construction company<br>I am a senior manager for another construction company<br>I was also the Personal Officer for the Air Force Auxilary for 8 years.<br>Plus I worked in the retail enviroment for 10 years.<br>My interviewing skills are derived from a broad base of requiered skills.<br><br>Simply stated - it all comes down to one thing ---The applicants ability to communicate.<br><br>
I don’t feel like Carp needs to apologize for anything – he was – as he said – stating his opinion. But I do agree maybe the words were chosen poorly, and in my general state of distemper yesterday perhaps I did take it more personally than it was intended. So there, now you’ve met my defensive side. As you get to know me however – maybe you will see that I do try to pay attention to the details – sometimes to the point of obsession - and this is why I often spend a lot of time trying to tailor a job interview thank you note to what transpired during the actual interview – so without this context to go by one could make the generalizations that were made. As far as communication skills go – yes I agree they are vitally important – and as a relative newcomer to the world of internet forum interaction perhaps I’ve learned a little more from this exchange.<br><br>
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