Ahhh.... whew! <br><br><br>[color:blue]Dick Vitale </font color=blue>»

You actually listen to Dylan's words? I just like his mellifluous range. He's like Pavorotti compared to me.<br><br><br><br>

How can you beat "Keep a clean nose, watch the plain clothes"? Or "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." Hard to top that, I think.<br><br>

Fembots? Honestly, such a typical last grabbing action for an ignorant chauvinist! PMS feminists? Daaaahhmmn— I guess we'd better get back in the kitchen and try to be *hot chicks* with no real thought except those outside of the material world… oh wait, isn't what that thread was about in the first place? <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>When Bush won, one of the Fembots was crying. I wanted to boast about the win..., but of course, I knew she would have lost it and yelled like PMS girls gone wild. <p><hr></blockquote><p>Perhaps she was morning the death of democracy in the USA?<br><br>It is no surprise you are making posts about dates on this forum, rather than going on them. Also, here you are so knowledgeable about PMS— what the heck are you talking about? Is that something you saw on a sitcom? Or perhaps something your mother said? Doesn't seem to me you have known too many real women. I think what you mean to say is that we are "emotional" perhaps the correct term would be passionate. Celandine is an artist, without passion art is worthless. I myself am a pupae. "girls gone wild" indeed.<br><br>Also, do explain "the scientific method, innocence before proven guilty" to me, oh educate me with your infinite wisdom! "multiple sources of different political views not only liberal outfits like NPR or invalid internet sources. " show us then! Don't you think it makes logical sense to believe what nonprofit organizations hold as the truth vs. large corporations who only have financial gain? Internet sources for sure, as we are exchanging these words over the internet. Here, take a look at the book sitting on my desk— doesn't work right?<br><br>As Howard Zinn said "…a historian, a journalist, or anyone telling a story is forced to choose between an infinite number of facts. What to present, what to omit, and the decision would inevitably reflect— whether consciously or not— the interests of the historian…There is no such thing as a pure fact innocent of interpretation. Behind every fact presented to the world— by a teacher, a writer, anyone—is a judgment. The judgment that has been made, that this fact is important and other facts omitted are not important." Bloody honest if you ask me. Perhaps you should look into the words of Howard Zinn. My world is not black and white— right and left— the 1950s are over. Time to educate ourselves.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>assuming you don't abort them<p><hr></blockquote><p>I have a child and love him with all of my being. I guess you read me huh? You really had better wipe your lip, you've got [censored] running all out of it. you don't know me.<br><br>Howard Zinn {WW2 vet, professor, activist, and author has dedicated his life to the notion that the knowledge of history is important to people's everyday lives} On war:<br>"Should citizens not ask again and again in whose interest are we doing what we're doing…"<br><br><br>[color:yellow]a candle is not there to illuminate itself</font color=yellow>

Ah Cherry, how much life would be better for you in Cuba, where you can indulge your anti-American and anti-business views all the way to Castro's arms ;-).<br><br>Fembots? Honestly, such a typical last grabbing action for an ignorant chauvinist! PMS feminists? Daaaahhmmn— I guess we'd better get back in the kitchen and try to be *hot chicks* with no real thought except those outside of the material world… oh wait, isn't what that thread was about in the first place? <br><br>My post focused on women empowerement over Operahfication. Feminists want women to not shave their legs, dress like men, act like men, and basically, kill all of a woman's sexual and personal appeal. Very different agenda than embracing a non-victim mentality. By the way, please don't see the term "Fembots" as any relation to Austin Powers movies. Those Fembots were hot ;-).<br><br>Perhaps she was morning the death of democracy in the USA?<br><br>Typical ultra-left response. So when a Republican wins office, it is "the death of democracy." If only you could see how anti-democratic your statement is. This is on election night, before the recount fiasco! You've just shown how far to the looney left you are.<br><br>It is no surprise you are making posts about dates on this forum, rather than going on them. <br><br>Until Fidel takes over, I'll do what I want, when I want. If I felt like going on a date, I would go find someone. If I feel like watching Lord of the Rings extended edition and piecing the entire story together, that's what I'll do. If I feel like going to a party, that's what I'll do. This is an online cafe, I talked about the things that interest me. Maybe if you weren't PMSing 24/7, you could enjoy a fun post here and there ;-).<br><br>Also, here you are so knowledgeable about PMS— what the heck are you talking about? Is that something you saw on a sitcom? Or perhaps something your mother said? Doesn't seem to me you have known too many real women. <br><br>Most women I've known and made friends with are mature and control their anger (like most guys). Girlfriends have been angry at me when I deserved it, never did they do it for the heck of it. You and Celandine totally remind me of college feminists, boring, boring and more boring, with a strong touch of PMS ;-). What's up with you guys bringing my parents, my dad's money, and now my mom into your posts? Ooops, forgot that family values is irrelevent on the far left ;-).<br><br>Don't you think it makes logical sense to believe what nonprofit organizations hold as the truth vs. large corporations who only have financial gain? <br><br>I've given the source as the Economist for multiple posts. If you come down from your sweet world of rainbows and leprechauns you will see that non-profits have much to gain financially. They lobby for money, both from individuals and the government, and keep lobbying. As for them being unbias, that's just ridiculous. You think an organization called "saving seeds" or "let's hold hands for international peace and love federation" will seriously consider any science supporting GM foods, or any strategy based on pre-emptive war? You live in lala land with Celandine, or should I call it anti-American land. When it comes down to it, your anti-business views died with the fall of the berlin wall. There is a new America, one much ahead of the great society and new deal. This new America is based on an ownership society, where Americans unlike your socialistic wet-dreams, own homes, cars, stocks, mutual funds, IRAs and 401ks. The future of America is this ownership society, and let's not forget the boom in entrepreneurship and small business. You're the past Cherry, America 2.0 zigged ahead during Reagan and Clinton, and now Bush is caring that torch ;-).<br><br>Howard Zinn: I went to the site Cherry. Seems like just another academic, whose views come from the commune. History is about the individual, and so is life. Individuals, not communes, change things. Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Lincoln, Churchill, Reagan. Reagan is a good example. We might still be living with a USSR if Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, and the other weak presidents had been around ( Well better than if you were president, we might be living under communism ). It took a Reagan to change the direction of a party, country, and the world. Be it a Reagan, a Jobs, a Gates, a Bezos, a Bin Laden, or a Hitler, in the end, history comes back to the individuals.<br><br>Face it Cherry, you three are uniformly left-wing, ultra-left, on practically every important issue. I'm the one who embraces issues from the left (immigration, drugs, penal reform, guns) and the right (taxes, regulations, foreign policy). I'm the one that gets my news from the BBC on a daily basis (liberal), or occasionally listening to NPR while driving (liberal) or reading the Economist (libertarian). You three are so closed-minded, you can't even see it. Another resemblence to the college feminists ;-).<br><br>PS:<br>You still didn't say which one of you wears the pants in the relationship? Is it you, Celandine, or djstephan?<br><br> "A rising tide lifts all boats." JFK

Your thread that was your idea of Fun & Games<br>and that just isn't any fun anymore <br><br>was just another example of lashing out and bashing.<br>It may have been non-political, so you automatically<br>assumed that it would therefore be ACCEPTABLE to<br>use the forum as a platform from which to Bash<br>Women, and that no one was supposed to see that<br>as Negative.<br><br>Darlin', I'm not a "Feminist", but I don't have to be<br>black to find "[censored] jokes" offensive either.<br><br>So, why don't you just cut your crap?<br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>

And I am ALSO not Un-American, or ANTI-American<br>just because detest the puppet that sold out our<br>country and turned our military forces into <br>mercenaries for the profit of capitalists.<br><br>It's Called PATRIOTISM! Love of Country!<br><br>I don't hate this country I HATE YOUR PRESIDENT!<br><br><br>Again, STOP the Negative BUZZ-WORDS!<br>Feminist, PMS, Conspiracy-Theory, Negativity.<br>wot next?<br><br>Gonna call me a Lesbian? lolol<br>Wrong again <br><br>PMS? get real, I'm SOOOOO past menapause.<br>Oh, did you assume you were talking to another little<br>just-out-of-his-diaper snot nose? <br><br>Jerk!<br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>

Hey Celandine, stop using the n-word. I know that might be how you feel about African-Americans, but please don't do it publicly, keep it to your private PMS moments. You want to twist my words about women, I can easily twist yours about race . <br><br>I have made no anti-women jokes, only anti-feminist ones. Only a Fembot would equate that with making a racist joke about African-Americans. Even if someone did a woman joke there is nothing wrong with that, since its all in good fun. People have fun outside the commie PMS red zone you two live in, and men make jokes about women, while women make jokes about men. <br><br>I guarantee any sensible person reading my posts can see I don't bash women. Contrary to it, Republicans are the greater pro-women party, dealing more strongly against rape, and against hand-outs and gender preference that victimize female entrepreneurs/business women instead of treating them as equals. <br><br>So, why don't you just cut your crap?<br><br>I can't cut you and Cherry, that would be animal abuse ;-). Your buddies from PETA would come crying ;-). You two want to turn my innocent relationship and food posts around to personal attacks and politics (not to mention someone else's post about stickies!) so be it, it's hard-ball now ;-).<br><br><br> "A rising tide lifts all boats." JFK

And Bashing "Seed-Saving" shows how INCREDIBLY STUPID<br>and ignorant you really are!<br>You obviously know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about biology and<br>botany, or you wouldn't have even went there at all.<br><br>Hey, It's not my job to teach you, look it up yourself.<br><br>LA-LA & Rainbows? You MOST be kidding? lolol<br>Darlin', you have NO idea! lolol so don't even go there.<br>Cherry & I indeed have certain similarities, but we also<br>have gaping differences.<br><br>Stefan?<br>YOW! I find him terrifically sexy!<br>You can obviously learn a thing or three from his approach.<br>I dare say, while you're sitting home beating off to a copy<br>of Wall Street Journal, he's made a lot of points with just<br>about every female on the forum in this thread, so I can <br>understand why you'd lash out in a fit of jealousy. <br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>

It is an ugly word.<br>.........but it makes my point, about people that refuse<br>to see how hurtful the things they say, without giving<br>it a second thought.<br><br>You thinking that genger jokes are fair game is just part <br>of that old thinking.<br><br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>