monetarily, emotionally, physically<br>men always pay for IT<br><br><br><br>ITS BEER O'CLOCK

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>...and I believe in a fair-and-balanced relationship<p><hr></blockquote><p>I think I see the problem GOP, you are watching way too much Fox News. <br><br><br>[color:blue]Dick Vitale </font color=blue>»

<br>Good luck with your Larry David imitation,<br><br><br>BTW, d00d, JFK was a Democrat<br>try Abraham Lincoln, maybe then we'll like you. <br><br><br><br>[color:green]"...or am I a butterfly that's dreaming she's a woman?"</font color=green>

Well, I won't jump on you. But for a first date, if you want to make the effort to meet her and get to know her, then pay. If the relationship goes somewhere, then she can pitch in. If at dinner, you like her and she insist on paying half, just say to her, "hey, you can pay next time when you take me out."<br><br>

I have a question for you. If you went on a date and the guy told you that you'd have to pay for your half of the meal, would you ever go out with him again? I'm guessing most women would say no. <br><br>Women 'expect' guys to foot the bill, while they do nothing but take. <br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Women 'expect' guys to foot the bill, while they do nothing but take. <p><hr></blockquote><p>i don't know if this a complaint or just a statement, but let me give you my perspective.<br><br>women give you happiness with their inner and outer beauty, they give you self confidence and inspiration, they give you hope and a reason to live. if that's not worth a hamburger for some, then they don't deserve the attention of a woman. <br><br>a man has to be strong enough to support a woman and provide her with the freedom to be able to self realize herself. if a man is not able to deliver on this, he doesn't deserve to be called a man, but should be called a [censored]. <br><br>

"...provide her with the freedom to be able to self realize herself."<br><br>It's totally overrated. I "self-realize" myself in the shower every morning, and it hasn't gotten me anywhere!<br><br>

Oh man, those whippings must really hurt.<br><br>A "woman give you happiness with their inner and outer beauty, they give you self confidence and inspiration, they give you hope and a reason to live." So, because she's pretty and stroke your ego, you're supposed to bend over and take it?<br><br>What's a man do? Do you think you're only function is to open your wallet and feed them? Dude, next you're going to tell me you think mini vans are cool. <br><br>Let me tell you about a mans role. Take notes, maybe you'll learn something. A man is gentle, nurturing, supportive, open minded, he is the womans shield when the wolves are at the door. He's the listener without judging, the equal, though often physicaly stronger, he should never seek to dominate the woman, but should lift her to his level, or climb to meet hers. <br><br>The man brings as much to the table as the woman. He shouldn't have to bring his credit card too.<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Beautiful women were always accidental successes, me having a "whatever" attitude towards them initially, which led to mutual interest.<p><hr></blockquote><p>this is interesting and there is a reason behind it. women are looking for the alpha male and when you were brave enough to approach the beautiful woman and acted as you don't care, you actually behaved like an alpha male. the alpha can get any woman and can afford not to stress about trying to impress. being the alpha means different things in different societies and age. an alpha teenager can be a muscular football player, who can afford a cool car and can get the best pot. but a geek who can hack the FBI computers can also be an alpha in an other society. even a bold fat banker can be an alpha male. the common of all these alphas is that they are winners and they have the respect of people. if you're an alpha in the eye of your woman, you got her attention.<br><br>however this will only work for the first time. when a woman gets interested in you, she is looking for a father of their babies and not just a alpha to mate. so at the second stage you have to be able to prove your loved one that you want and can care about her and the babies.<br><br>this is a very instinctive approach to the core of the issue and these basic rules manifest themselves in hundreds of ways. besides, every person goes through different stages in their lives, sometimes they just experiment or have fun, so these basic rules can change significantly. for example a 17 year old is mostly learning what a relationship is all about and she might act irrationally, just to see the limits, but it's all working towards the main goal of getting the alpha and having him care for her and the next generation.<br><br>so, if you like a woman, than go up to her be the alpha and than be a gentleman.<br><br>

Man...thank God I'm gay. Problem solved. <br><br>===================<br><br>S3V3N<br>Washington, DC USA