They hate you because you sold weapons to them, their ennemies and then went and killed their children, parents and family.<br><br>Be specific, not hard-left ranting out of nowhere. Which nations did the US sell weapons to? If you mean Afghanistan, then yes, I can guarantee if I was president at that time (Jimmy Carter, Reagan) i would have done the same thing? Why, because Afghanistan was being invaded by the Soviet, and the Afghans needed weapons to protect themselves from the atheist invasion. At that time the main threat to the free world was the Soviet empire, and protecting Afghanistan, and the huge defeat the soviets suffered there accelerated the fall of the USSR. <br><br>They hate you because at least half the globe hates you... <br><br>So it would be okay to hate blacks in the 17th century, when most white nations saw them as inferiors or slaves. But even there, I disagree with your premise. America has the most immigration of any advance nation, if not any nation, i believe jealously is a better word than hate, after all when France was a global power they used it to conquer and be imperialist. America has used her power to protect freedom, and expand liberty (WW2, Cold War, War on Terrorism). <br><br>Don't just track them and hold on to them in order to win an ellection later. <br><br>If evidence came that Bush faked having Bin Laden, that would bring his presidency down. He can win against a Boston flip-flopping liberal any day of the week, especially with $100 million in the bank. Enough with the unsourced conspiracies. What does it mean that we took the oil??? So we are there, stealing oil, and ladadida no one notices? <br><br>You want the TRUTH??? The real truth friend? The sad truth is that this war was for oil, but not the American position, the anti-war position. France and Russia had publicly big oil contracts with the Hussein regime, and that's one of the main reasons for their opposition.<br><br>Here's some more economics: OPEC, not some corporate consipracy, controls the oil supply. OPEC nations decide output, therefore practically deciding prices. War is not good for business! Risks increase, and stocks decrease. <br><br> I would enroll in the Canadian army and go fight on the front line since that's where they place Canadians. This is one point that South Park was right on. But I am not gonna go place myself as a Shield to protect others since I do not belive in this war, or any war as a matter of fact. <br><br>Yeah I forgot the invaluable nature of the Canadian military to US foreign affairs ;-). Actually, the US marines and army are the ones on the front lines, both in Afghanistan and Iraq. Canadians might come when the action is gone to protect the place like in Afghanistan, but the majority risk and resources is taken by the US in Afghanistan and the US and UK in Iraq. I bet you Canada has more deaths in Afghanistan from accidents than combat. <br><br>Since I support both wars, I must sign-up right? Then you have to sign-up against them by becoming a human shield if you are serious about being against these wars. See the faulty logic?<br><br>Finally: If you want to stop terrorists, STOP SELLING THEM WEAPONS!!!!!!! <br><br>I can say "socialists stop eating babies." That means nothing. Please specify were the US sold weapons to terrorists. I already stated the Afghan affair, and as for Hussein, enough with the far-left spin that America armed him. Yes we did help during the Iran-Iraq war, but nearly all his weapons were Soviet made since like them he was a socialist, a Baath Socialist. My source is the Economist on the weapons supply for Iraq.<br><br>By the way, did the terrorists buy from America two planes on that morning of Sep. 11th? This is a new war, and tanks/jet fighters, the weapons America specializes in are not the weapons of the enemy. Your entire accusation is almost like saying we have never been to the moon.<br><br>
#148694 - 03/16/0403:05 PMTen times more outrageous!
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GOP stated his position, he'll stay home and gladly let your sons die <br>to protect his investments<br><br>If you are talking about my statement about having money in Big-Oil, I can guarantee most of the other guys here saw the sarcasm in it. I have no investments in oil, and for that matter I'm not even that rich. Let's stop with the class warfare. I don't have an SUV, I like coupes. I definately don't live in a mansion.<br><br>I called my friend's mother on a weekly basis during the second Iraq war last year. Her son was serving in the marines as a front-line driver-engineer. I prayed for his safety on multiple occasions, and anxiously looked at the early casuelty lists. <br><br>His mother was a democrat, and pro-war, and inspired me with her courage. She disliked the anti-war crowds ridiculous statements about this war being for oil. What about that? Is she planning to make profits over her son's service? Her son, thank God, came back from the war safely. <br><br>
#148695 - 03/16/0403:10 PMThey never were our friends
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A friend is there for you through thick and thin, like the UK and Israel. France, Russia were never our friends. These two has beens are so jealous of lost power, they will never give America a break. They are like the guy who hates it when you tell him you just made it big.<br><br>As for Germany, their actions are back-stabbing. America proudly defended West Germany, and instilled capitalistic values to build her, and what do we get from Germans when we ask for support in Iraq War II? <br><br>
You can say anything you want, you will never convince me this war was supposed to be and that fighting fire with fire is the way to go. <br><br>When I had my store, I had guys to do the manual labor. The only difference is that when I would ask them to go move heavy 70lb monitors by the 100s, I was always there with them sweating till I would drop. I never sat in my office on my leather chair while they were doing all the work. And yes, I was paying them... <br>You belive in something, do it yourself. I do not belive in this war so I will not fight. If you do, and you belive there is no other way but with this war, than you should be there fighting on the front line. There is no "But but but" unless your hadicapped or a women or a kid under 18.<br><br>If you are not fighting, then it means you belive there are other ways than war, it's that simple.<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif
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#148697 - 03/16/0403:19 PMI am not a soldier!
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There are a LOT of Brave people doing lots of things to help<br><br>All I'm saying is that GOPmachine is NOT one of them.<br><br>I am not a soldier. I helped in the only way I thought I could, by calling my friend's mother and praying for her son. I would support any raise in military pay on any day. Take that money away from those farm subsidies, and other pork projects, and give it to the troops.<br><br>Some of the anti-war people actually did something to hurt the troops. Imagine fighting in Iraq, then coming to base watching on Fox News the anti-war demonstrators burning the US flag and calling soldiers Iraqi baby killers. That hurt morale.<br><br>Stop attacking me, and start proposing an alternative view. Your idea of a world poll is the stuff that would make Republicans burst out in laughter. Where in the constitution does foreign policy fall unto a world-collective order? <br><br>
"Where in the constitution does foreign policy fall unto a world-collective order?"<br><br>So what you are saying is the same thing the US told the UN:<br>"Our way or our way or our way or our way"<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif
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Almost forgot my most important post in this thread,<br><br>Thank you Boothby for serving our nation. Your service is invaluable, and we are all proud of our boys, be it present troops, or past veterans. <br><br>I would never dare call myself brave, next to men such as you ;-). When I have a son, it won't matter what background he's coming from, if he decides to join the armed forces, he will have my support.<br><br>God bless you.<br><br>
Are we supposed to get permission from the UN to prevent another attack on us? So yes, it's our way. <br><br>The UN is useless. There are so many agendas it's pointless to rely on them. <br><br>Do you honestly think that France and Russia would agree to the US going into Iraq when they know it would hurt their oil deals with Saddam? No, they wouldn't. They would allow more attacks on the US so they could have oil. So, is America will the big bad wolf?<br><br>
I know people working for the UN. Trust me, all the UN wants is world peace. The UN is for the good of the people, not the bad.<br><br>And about needing the support of the UN to protect yourself? How is the country protecting itself when a big part of the troops are out of the country? Terrorists could be anyone, your neighbor, your friend, your boss..... And those are not in Iraq, but around you. <br><br>All the US is doing is pissin off more and more terrorists while helping them get recruits. Like you said, terrorists do not fight with guns anymore, so how are you gonna catch them outside of your country when they are inside of it already?<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif
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