I think you got the right idea Celandine. There are soo many people in this forum that are FOR the "war on terror" but I do not see a SINGLE ONE going to enroll and go fight. <br>Kida reminds me of the person who started this war and sent over hundreds of 1000s of kids but he has never even been able to finish his army duties... <br><br>For those that belive in the war, GO FIGHT FOR IT! Go and see 18 year old kids getting shot for a few gallons of oil... Go see the war with no end... Vietnam II.... And go support WW3 and be part of the awefull future history.... <br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif

reminds me of the person who started this war and sent over hundreds of 1000s of kids but he has never even been able to finish his army duties... <br><br><br>

This again comes back to freedom and economics. I am not a soldier. This is not my skill, nor my expertise. Secondly I do not wish to be a soldier.<br><br>In our free and market based nation, those who wish to join the military do so, with the knowledge they might be called upon to serve and die in this field. They are trained, and have the skills to be a soldier, and most importantly make the choice. Our nation's fundamental philosophy is that the civilians's representative (the president) has first and final say over the military and even if the president is a draft-dodger like Clinton, he is still in charge.<br><br>This idea I should join the military because I was for the Afghan and Iraq wars is ridiculous to say, very ridiculous actually, and contrary to the principles of freedom and specialization . I'll do you guys a deal, I'll join the military the day you guys become human shields in the next American campaign.<br><br>

This would be a great book cover for a History book about WW3... <br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>There are soo many people in this forum that are FOR the "war on terror" but I do not see a SINGLE ONE going to enroll and go fight.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Only the small mind needs to set up the straw-man.<br><br>Dean Davis

"hey are trained, and have the skills to be a soldier, and most importantly make the choice."<br><br>An 18 year old knows no good choice yet. Also, one of the main trainings they give these kids is enough hand-power to be able to hold a gun still. Ever had a gun in your hand? Pretty heavy! Those kids fighting are not any stronger or ready to die than you are. Some of them are HS nerds that couldn't even climb the roap. Those are your human shield!<br><br>If you think they should die, you should go and die with them! You are no better than them and they are no better than you. The only difference is that just like the runner of the country, you are a coward with a big mouth waiting to empocket the $$ that will come from the oil so that you can get your SUV and your mansion.<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by djstefan on 03/16/04 02:00 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>

Some of them are HS nerds that couldn't even climb the roap. Those are your human shield!<br><br>Um, have you ever experienced basic training? I highly doubt kids who 'can't climb the rope' are even given a uniform...<br><br>If you think they should die, you should go and die with them! You are no better than them and they are no better than you. The only difference is that just like the runner of the country, you are a coward with a big mouth waiting to empocket the $$ that will come from the oil so that you can get your SUV and your mansion.<br><br>Now this I don't quite understand....Because these guys VOLUNTARILY signed up for military service, ALL of us should have to fight and/or die on the front lines? <br><br>I don't drive an SUV, there was no draft, and these guys know perfectly well of the risk of going to war when they enlist. They don't kidnap guys off the street and lead them to believe that the Army is some wacky off-the-charts exercise program... You're training to fight and KILL.<br><br>I know this may sound harsh, but if an 18-year old doesn't know that fighting in a war could mean severe injury or (gasp!) death, then you can't blame the system...<br><br>Personally, I feel like I have more to offer alive and at home and working than holding a gun in the desert somewhere. Some people may not feel the same.<br><br>[color:red]You slap my back, I'll slap yours!</font color=red>

you are a coward with a big mouth waiting to empocket the $$ that will come from the oil so that you can get your SUV and your mansion.<br><br>Agreed. I have so much money in Big-Oil, I need to make it back, even if it costs thousands of soldiers lives. Who cares either way, as long as I drive my super-charged Ford Expedition. <br><br>Now please excuse me, I have to go mansion shopping.<br><br> Exxon Mobile RULES! Big-Oil is father and mother. <br><br>

"Personally, I feel like I have more to offer alive and at home and working than holding a gun in the desert somewhere. Some people may not feel the same."<br><br>I guess other's were borned to die in the desert.... They got lots to offer dead.... <br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif

I can't list everyone's reasons for joining the military- all I'm saying is that *some* people might see it as their purpose in life, yes...<br><br>They don't sign up *assuming* they're going to die. If everyone did that, then we wouldn't have much of a fighting force, would we? <br><br>"Oh well, I'm gonna get shot or killed anyway...might as well just go step on that landmine over there.."<br><br>[color:red]You slap my back, I'll slap yours!</font color=red>