I found this great review..and funny one comparing the Gateway Profile vs the 17inch iMac here<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p><br>Perhaps you've seen the commercials on television. First, there were the ads from Apple Computer, which introduced the audience to Windows users who've switched to the stylish iMac and never looked back. Not to be outdone, Gateway Computer responded with a TV ad campaign of its own. This one touts the Profile 4, a consumer-oriented PC that Gateway claims is faster and less expensive than the iMac.<br><br>Of course, this begs the question, which is better — Apple's new 17-inch iMac or the Gateway Profile 4? Gannett News Service ran both machines through a series of tests to find out.<br><br>In one corner sits the flat-panel iMac, a marvel of industrial engineering, looking more like a table lamp than a personal computer, with its 17-inch wide-format, flat-panel monitor floating above it. And in the other corner sits Gateway's contender, which sports a silver-and-black case and looks like a conventional 17-inch flat-panel screen with expanded girth.<br><br>Profile prices start at $999 for a unit with an Intel Celeron processor and climb to $1,999 for the model with a very fast Intel Pentium 4. The iMac prices start out at $1,299 and top out at $1,999.<br><br>Feature for feature<br><br>For this close encounter, we tested the top-of-the-line versions from both makers. As supplied by Gateway, the Profile 4 XL came with a 2.8-gigahertz Pentium 4 processor, 512 megabytes of memory, a 120-gigabyte hard drive. Apple's iMac comes with an 800-megahertz Motorola Power PC G4 processor, 256 megabytes of RAM and an 80-gigabyte hard drive. To bring the iMac's specs up to those of the Profile, we added 256 megabytes of RAM, which raised its price to $2,149.<br><br>/me:who buys ram from Apple??<br><br>On paper, the Apple and the Gateway seem closely matched in features and bundled software. Both have Ethernet, FireWire and USB ports to connect to the Internet and peripherals, such as camcorders, digital cameras and MP3 players. In addition to these connections, both computers come with a "Works" suite, personal finance software, jukebox software and other extras.<br><br>The Gateway ships with Windows XP, and is compatible with millions of PCs around the world. The iMac comes with the latest version of Apple's Unix-based operating system, Mac OS X 10.2 Jaguar.<br><br>When you look between the lines, though, the Gateway shows evidence of cutting some corners. Its LCD, for example uses an analog rather than digital connection, which is somewhat cheaper to produce. The result: The iMac's picture is visibly crisper, with truer colors. In addition, the iMac's stainless steel arm provides an immensely flexible range of vertical and horizontal adjustments for the display. Despite all the leaping and jumping the Profile 4 manages in its TV commercial, you only can tilt its display vertically.<br><br>What's more, the Profile 4 contains 4-pin FireWire ports, rather than the 6-pin variety used on all of Apple's computers. Unfortunately, a 4-pin FireWire port doesn't supply power to external devices, such as the iPod digital music player, which means you'll need an add-on power cable when using FireWire devices with the Profile.<br><br>Also, while the iMac's power supply is self-contained, The Profile 4 uses an oversized power brick.<br><br>Apple says that half of its flat-panel iMacs sales include the SuperDrive, Apple's name for a drive that creates both CDs and DVDs, Gateway doesn't offer a comparable option for the Profile 4. The fully equipped Gateways have a combination CD writer and DVD reader, which create CDs but only play — not record — a DVD video.<br><br>Revealing benchmarks<br><br>To prove its superiority, Gateway commissioned a set of performance tests, conducted by eTesting Labs of Foster City, Calif. (www.etestinglabs.com/ main/ reports/ gateway.asp), which compared the iMac and the Profile 4. Predictably, the Gateway trounced the iMac.<br><br>In our own tests, the Gateway still bested the iMac, but our results, which duplicated some of Gateway's tests and added some others, showed it was no slam-dunk.<br><br>The comparison chart says it all. While the Gateway toasted the iMac in 3-D game frame rates at a resolution of 640x480 using Quake III Arena, the scores were much closer when the crisper, more realistic resolution of 1,024x768 was used. The Gateway registered 66.2 frames per second, while the iMac scored 62.5 frames per second, an insignificant difference for casual gamers.<br><br>We also applied Apple's own benchmarks, the ones used to show its G4 processor rivals the Pentium 4. The test routines employ nine common Adobe Photoshop functions. Here the huge megahertz gap was mostly surmounted. The iMac's 800-megahertz G4 sprinted through the tests in 49.6 seconds. The Gateway's 2.8-gigahertz Pentium 4 completed the same tasks in 44.7 seconds.<br><br>The ultimate buying decision<br><br>It all comes down to brute force versus finesse. If you want a powerful, compact PC that is well suited to home or small business use, and you aren't lured by world-class industrial design and an easy-to-navigate operating system, the Gateway Profile 4 is a fine choice.<br><br>But if you're willing to give up a little in the way of number crunching performance and want to compute in high style, consider the flat-panel iMac as the winner of this close encounter.<br><p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Emphasis added by me...<br><br>
Not to mention that there's no iTunes, no iPhoto, no iDVD (well, no burning, period), no iMovie, no system-based CD burning. I guess they bougth the extra 256 MB or RAM from Apple--paid a good price for it. Now we all know that's a silly thing to do <br><br>Great wits are sure to madness near allied.--John Dryden, "Absalom and Achitophel"
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Plus the screen was blank!!!<br>Whats up with that, was Gateway to shamefull to show that it runs Windows. What a complete waste of corporate dollars.<br><br>Gateway should be knocking down Dells - Baffoooons.<br><br>
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