<sigh><br>OK.<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Iraqui people have no food, no jobs...<p><hr></blockquote><p>As opposed to the bounty of jobs and food that they<br>had under Sadaam? They weren't exactly rich and fat before hand. And just an FYI - they just had a war. It will take time, but they will get there. And get this! They'll have the freedom to express their opinion without fear of death. They'll be able to elect their leaders. They'll be able to share in some of the oil revenues, instead of that money going to another one of Sadaam's solid gold toilet seats.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The US has a deficit higher than you could count<p><hr></blockquote><p>Yeah, it's been like that for generations, under Democrat and Republican presidents, but of course, you think it's all George Bush's fault. Whatever.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The US has Over 100k troops that are overseas (most of them young kids) that are fighting another Vietnam<p><hr></blockquote><p>1. NONE of them were forced to join the military. That was a choice they all made, knowing what the possible consequences are. They were mostly young kids in WWII too, and are capable of amazing things. My first cousin is over there right now, and I'm damn proud of him and the job he's doing.<br>2. You think it's another Vietnam???? I know we're doing things much greater over in Iraq than we were ever doing in Vietnam. We are liberating people from an oppresive dictator, and making the Middle East safer. Just becuase you dont' like the war, doesn't automatically make it a "Vietnam". People throw that one around waaay to much.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>All the powerfull corporations have got their tax cuts<p><hr></blockquote><p>Can't really argue with that one. But do remember this one thing: those "large companies" pay a lot of the salaries in this country. I do however agree that corporations have too many tax cuts. Don't forget, most individuals also got a tax cut.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>More iraqui people killed by the US army in 1 year than all the years together by the dictator<p><hr></blockquote><p>That is just flat out 100% wrong. You ought to be ashamed of yourself for saying that. First of all, it's estimated that Sadaam killed 50,000 - 100,000 people - most of them innocent. No way we killed that many. And even if we did (which we didn't come anywhere close), that's a cost of war, and most of them were combatants. This was the most carefully executed war plan, with more targeting accuracy than anything the world has ever seen. I'm not denying that some innocents got killed. Unfortunaly, that's a side effect of war. But our military tried everything in their power to avoid situations like that.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>A crushed American economy<p><hr></blockquote><p>Uhhhhhhh. Since when? Stock market as been doing great. Unemployment is way down, and economic indicators are all saying that our enconomy is making a very healthy recovery. Economy was crushed back in 2001. Welcome to 2004, my friend.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And I could go on with the list.... <p><hr></blockquote><p>If the rest of your list makes as much sense as what you've already presented, don't bother.<br><br>Just face it, you're probably a Democrat who doesn't like ANYTHING about George Bush, no matter what he does, because you're sore that he beat Al Gore when Gore won the popular vote. You're blind to anything useful that happens during the Bush administration. You're useless to have an educated discussion with, since you are clearly unable to look at anything objectively that has to do with this administration.<br><br>THAT'S how is it better now than 12 months ago, friend.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>They are most regular people that had a disaster happend to them, such as their famillies, friends, relatives, loved ones... killed by American troops.<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Where were the suicide bombers when Sadaam was killing their relatives?<br><br>At least the people that we're (intentionally) killing are enemy combatants.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> You're blind to anything useful that happens during the Bush administration <p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Well, thanks for opening my eyes as they were shut. <br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif
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#131376 - 01/22/0409:30 PMRe: "Da Real State of the Union"
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TreeBeard
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Well I doubt that you are unbiased. For I can see things from a distance without bias., since I have no allegiance to American presidents on either side whatsoever. <br>The IMF wants to know how America is going to stop the world economic slide that GWB's false economy has induced and the tax cuts are one of the main reasons there is an economic problem. The tax cuts were to win favour for elections and wars, more big spending.. . There will be no tax cuts this election and that is for sure .. all you will get is a 5 trillion deficit.<br>Your economy is not recovering.<br>Saddam continues to violate humans rights thrugh that which he started.. even without his face behind it.<br>The world wide terrorism network may apparently be reeling but that is not the reason why bombs keep going off and more American soldiers have been killed since the "cessation of the offensive", or is it?<br><br>Who gets the credit?<br>Well we could start with Nixon or Reagan or Bush senior, we could even bring Clinton into the argument but oh well the biggest share is really GWB's, so lets give him the lions share of credit ok.<br>or is that debit?<br><br>The worlds money managers are not interested in America's political spin but they are interested in GWB's deficits.<br>The United Nations are not pleased with his humanitarian record either.<br>America's credibility has gone down the gurgler under Bush.<br>These are facts and not spin.<br><br>At least in this election it won't be gush and bore all over again .. or will it?<br><br>Trör Ironbrow<br><br><pre>[color:blue]The butterfly counts not months but moments, and has time enough</font color=blue></pre><p>
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#131378 - 01/22/0409:46 PMRe: "Da Real State of the Union"
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greenme1
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I think the situation in Iraq is bad and only going to get worse. The CIA recently said this, and warned about a possible civil war. <br><br>Now, just stating my opinion here: I think Bush is not only an idiot, but a fascist. And that is a dangerous combination. <br><br>
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#131381 - 01/22/0410:01 PMRe: "Da Real State of the Union"
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greenme1
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I really try hard to avoid these conversations, but i really can't stand what bush is doing. Worse yet i can't vote (by 1 year) in this next election to boot his sorry ass out of there. <br><br>Oh well, I'm having a bad day i guess.<br><br>P.S. I never claimed to be rational.... <br><br>