#131363 - 01/22/0411:58 AMRe: "Da Real State of the Union"
[Re: azande]
cherry
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Unfortunately, not being American, we cannot make a difference directly next year.<p><hr></blockquote><p>But you can… http://web.amnesty.org/<br>Type in USA, there is plenty you can do for us (US) that we can not do for ourselves. Also there is plenty everyone can do for the of the people of the world. You know, I am not really all that political, I just want to see ALL life on this planet protected and respected. I don't see that to be the trend these days. The present administration seems to be directly threatening the quality of life under the sun in all shapes and forms. Not just my opinion, don't you know!<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>the US went agains the UNs will into IRAQ<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Well, mostly just France and Germany. Of course, France will ALWAYS want the exact opposite of what the US wants, no matter what.<br><br>Of course, we WERE defending the UN's policies towards Iraq. UN came up with some rules. Iraq thumbed their noses at the UN for 12 years. We did something about it. <br><br>France & Germany's plan? Let's sit around and have 12 more years of failed inspections. Please. Somebody had to do something. I'm glad we had to guts to follow through.<br><br>Can't speak to the dues issue. Don't know much about it.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>But you have to admit the UN, in this instance, was acting a lot like the high school principal that preceded Joe Clark in 'Lean On Me'...<br><br>"Well, maybe we'll just sit back and hope things get better"...<br><br>I'm under the opinion that while this may not have been the most justified course of action in our history, we should act in our own interests when the UN cannot unilaterally agree on a matter.<br><br>That is, when we have good enough reason to do so.<p><hr></blockquote><p>We're on the same page there—I think we just differ on whether we had a good enough reason or not to take action. I don't think we did. I'm of the Libertarian stance that our foreign policy should be as hands-off, both politically and financially, as possible (but not laizais-faire, mind you).<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I just want to see ALL life on this planet protected and respected<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>I agree. That's why I'm glad we took out that murderous, torturous dictator. I'm surpised you don't feel the same way. <br><br>
Yeah, what I'm most interested in is http://www.controlarms.org<br><br>Az.<br>That which is dreamed can never be lost, can never be undreamed. - The Sandman
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> Let's sit around and have 12 more years of failed inspections. Please. Somebody had to do something. I'm glad we had to guts to follow through. <p><hr></blockquote><p><br>And what exactly did the "non failed" american inspections prove?<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif
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<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>And what exactly did the "non failed" american inspections prove?<p><hr></blockquote><p><br>That you abide by the UN's sanctions, or be removed from power. <br><br>They also proved that Sadaam was a brutal dictator who killed tens of thousands of Iraquis and buried them in mass graves.<br><br>That he routinely stole from the Food for Oil fund and from his own people while they were starving and dirt poor.<br><br>Just to name a few things. <br><br>WMDs? Not yet. And maybe never. I'll admit that. There was some faulty intelligence, no doubt. But I have trouble beleiving that the world isn't better off now than it was 12 months ago.<br><br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> world isn't better off now than it was 12 months ago <p><hr></blockquote><p><br>Iraqui people have no food, no jobs...<br>The US has a deficit higher than you could count<br>The US has Over 100k troops that are overseas (most of them young kids) that are fighting another Vietnam<br>All the powerfull corporations have got their tax cuts<br>More iraqui people killed by the US army in 1 year than all the years together by the dictator<br>A crushed American economy<br>And I could go on with the list.... <br>Now, how is it better now than 12 months ago?<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif
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Yeah, and the war officially ended, what, less than 3 or 4 months ago?<br><br>You think Japan was in such great shape after WW2 either? But look what we did there, and look how the'yre doing today. Maybe if the Iraqis would stop KILLING Americans so frequently, we might just be able to leave sooner. I don't think they understand that equation... <br><br>
uhmmm, if Japan was a company, they would be bankrupt.<br><br>As for the Americans being killed by Iraquis, that will never end as long as Americans are in there. The Irauis that are killing Americans are not all Terrorists. Most of them actually aren't. They are most regular people that had a disaster happend to them, such as their famillies, friends, relatives, loved ones... killed by American troops. <br>Let me tell you, if someone bombed my family, I would do everything in my power to put them down, even if it meant being a suicide bomber. And most likely you would do the same! <br><br>Immagine if the train went the other way around and you would be on the other side. Immagine your mother, father, sister, brother or anyone else you love being killed by an invasion army for the cost of some oil you have in your backyard. Would you sit on your butt and say it was right?<br><br>Edit: Also, as long as there is oil in those grounds, US troops will not leave.<br><br>_________________________________________<br>http://www.geocities.com/djstefan/bush.gif<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by djstefan on 01/22/04 05:17 PM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
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