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#130339 - 01/21/04 02:57 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: TreeBeard]
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Great i dont have much money anyway.<br><br>I guess writing the software you slam makes me a no talent?<br><br>please refrain from personal attacks or i will have the moderators ban you from posting here.<br><br>

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#130340 - 01/21/04 02:57 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: yoyo52]
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thanks yoyo i missed that one.<br><br>

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#130341 - 01/21/04 03:03 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: TreeBeard]
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Comprehension, though, requires two parts- those doing the comprehending, and those writing (or speaking) what's being comprehended.<br><br>Communication is such a delicate art that entire countries can go to war because of it.<br><br>You expect any less in this forum?<br><br>

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#130342 - 01/21/04 03:14 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: nutty]
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I have not at all actually criticised the software. Not in any way and I did not really write the words 'a no talent' nor did I call you that.. Please read my words carefully as I do not write in binary.<br>I do not make personal attacks.<br>I will more than likely consider purchase of your product at some time no doubt but that does not preclude me from having free speech about the product. In fact when I buy it I am perfectly able to make more comments, some of which may be glowing.<br>My stance here was that I was not being allowed to say such things. These are genuine criticisms. Sure a crafstman is made a better crafstman by tools but he needs to have the talent to use them, is all I started off saying. i said that software or tools do not make a craftsman. They may help a craftsman become a better craftsman but a craftsman first he must be. Now that I have been goaded and bullied, attempting to make me out a monster and attemptinig to provoke me calling me names .. I may well not consider buying the product if I so wish. These are my perogatives and i should not have to stand abuse for keeping within my rights. Atempt to ban me if you like but when the mods read the posts iI do not think they will agree. <br>What for? What did I do? nothing.. but mind my own business.. Attack me and I have the right to defence. Try being sensitive to your customers. We may help you write better software and even help you become a nicer person to boot.<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."
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#130343 - 01/21/04 03:16 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: DaddyMac]
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<br>no but i do expect better.<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."
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#130344 - 01/21/04 03:20 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: TreeBeard]
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"I do not make personal attacks."<br><br><br>Quote from you to me:<br>"all of your money could not buy you any talent "<br><br><br>It's over. I suggest you do what i'm going to do and ignore any post that you create. <br><br><br>

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#130345 - 01/21/04 03:24 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: nutty]
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please read the post you made above the one that you call a personal attack.. the one i replied to under your name. <br>My post did not attack you.. It attacked the concept of buying dictionary versions of talent.. Talent is indeed something that cannot be got from your software. Not directly. unless it is a software dictionary that is.<br><br>Read further above and see what you said to my initial post. <br>Now tell me that I attacked you if you can.<br>by all means prove it to me, I am all ears. <br><br>I do not know what makes you think that I care if you do not read my posts .. knowing that you are going to create a storm in a tea cup.<br><br>I knew all along that it was purported that you wrote the software.. read my first comment again. My comment was suggestive of improvements one could make to such software .. akin to the improvements Suzuki made to learning the violin. Talent needs to be nurtured not abused.<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by TreeBeard on 01/21/04 10:34 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
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#130346 - 01/21/04 04:29 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: TreeBeard]
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I agree about Tools vs Talent:<br><br>For Instance; I will never be able to take pictures like my friend JoAnne<br>She uses a $10 Kodak and I can use a $400 Canon, <br>and she'd STILL take better photos, because she has an absolute TALENT for composition!<br>She is UNSCHOOLED, and never even HEARD the word"Composition" and yet she has an <br>ABSOLUTE GENIUS for it!<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>yes talent can be recognized by tutors far better than the talented person can see it. <br>Talent has to be nurtured out of the womb .. not crushed under a sandshoe... er sneaker? <p><hr></blockquote><p>Yes, I agree, and I make certain to encourage her talent! knowing that so few people want<br>to see someone other than themselves, succeed.<br><br>You see, when I began applying to ArtSchools, It was the INSTRUCTORS that called me <br>an "ILLUSTRATOR" before I even knew the term.<br>It was NOT as if I went in WANTING to draw pictures in children's books or anything, they just <br>SAW where my ability lay, and put a name to it. I was simply doing what came natural. <br><br>TRANSFERRING that "talent" to COMPUTER art is another thing! <br>I DO NOT Have a Talent for working with COMPUTERS <br><br>IMO, The BEST thing about GarageBand will be how far it will go towards ENCOURAGING people<br>that have latent abilities, and creative juices that may have gone untapped, by allowing them<br> to explore what is available in today's world.<br><br>I ALSO See the potential of COLLABORATIONS that will doubtlessly bear fruit!<br><br>Having known ACTUAL "GARAGE BANDS" (that IMO are darned good), fall apart before the<br>talents ever bore fruit, due to lack of "right the breaks" or the "right contacts" or the lack of <br>money to rent studios & cut demos (whatever) that may now have a way of breaking through! <br><br>LOLOLOL If not, as was pointed out earlier, "we can still exercise the right to change the channel!"<br><br>What about the person that may have a gift for composition?<br>...but has no orchestra?<br>Or a talent for MIXING Sounds?<br>...but has NO SOUNDS TO MIX?<br><br>I See GREAT Potential for GarageBand!<br><br>I'll be getting iLife for iPhoto, <br>...but I know a certain musician that will be using my computer the second he finds the place<br>where he can plug in his WashBurn! <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Celandine on 01/21/04 11:49 AM (server time).</EM></FONT></P>
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#130347 - 01/21/04 04:47 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: Celandine]
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Good positive and nonjudgemental post.<br>Welcome, Celandine!<br><br>

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#130348 - 01/21/04 04:50 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: sross]
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<br><br>Why, thankyou, Stanley!
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