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#130279 - 01/20/04 03:10 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: DaddyMac]
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That WAS the Shoosh notes, DM! Do you want the full 20 volume set?<br><br><br><br><br>Shooshie<br><br><br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
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#130280 - 01/20/04 03:29 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: Shooshie]
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On audiobook, please.<br><br>

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#130281 - 01/20/04 03:32 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: DaddyMac]
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Why? You got some ITMS gift certificates?<br><br><br><br>

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#130282 - 01/20/04 03:35 AM Re: PS: Nutty... [Re: Shooshie]
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I am not sure if I know what the midi edit window is. Is it the little window that opens at the bottom of Garageband when you click the scissors icon or double click on a track?<br><br>If it is that window, then you can place the cursor to the left of the record button and click and it becomes a grab hand. <br>Use the hand to raise the window.<br>Also, on the bottom left is a slider that will enlarge the area you want to edit.<br>Is that what you mean?<br><br><br>My Stuff

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#130283 - 01/20/04 03:49 AM Re: GarbageBand
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I understand where Iraszl is coming from with this one. When I first read the info on Garageband, I thought..."ugh. now THIS".<br><br>People are starting to accept the inferior audio quality of a compressed music file. What happens when the music industry learns that they can sell a cheap download that sounds like crap? The music will get worse.<br><br>Music has been reduced to "stock" quality because music labels don't want to wait for artists to become inspired to produce. That's a time/money risk. So what has been offered to the public in the last ten years or so is an easily produced commodity. <br><br>How does this relate to Garageband? In my opinion, GB will eventually contribute to the well-in-progress dumbing down of music...not by "bringing the tools to the people", but by lowering people's expectations of Art. <br><br>Deconstruction is the "new education", and I'm just glad I won't be around after the next 40 years to see how that all pans out.<br><br>===================<br><br>S3V3N<br>Washington, DC USA

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#130284 - 01/20/04 03:55 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: Shooshie]
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Thanks for the list. Some generally good schools in there.<br><br>About the snobbery/elitism--that's always a risk.<br><br>

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#130285 - 01/20/04 03:55 AM Re: PS: Nutty... [Re: Lori]
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That's the correct window, Lori, but at its maximum, it will only allow you to see two octaves. That makes MIDI editing really hard. The closest analogy I can think of is back when MacPaint only allowed you to see a tiny part of a full-page drawing at one time. You had to scroll to see the rest of your drawing. It's hard to draw when you can't see the objects you're drawing in relation to. Same with MIDI editing. You need to be able to see at least the full 88, then scroll up or down to the extremes. <br><br>Now, if you find a menu item that opens that window up to full screen or something, I'm going to be really embarrassed. But I'd be pleased!<br><br><br>Shooshie<br><br>[color:green]Pictures and things</font color=green>
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#130286 - 01/20/04 04:04 AM Re: GarbageBand
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"Music has been reduced to "stock" quality because music labels don't want to wait for artists to become inspired to produce. That's a time/money risk. So what has been offered to the public in the last ten years or so is an easily produced commodity. "<br><br>I disagree. Ever since there was a music business (since the 1940's?), it's always been like that. It hasn't been "reduced" at all. This isn't a new phenomenon. The processed, canned stuff gets most air play because it's cheap and easy to sell. Go back to the beginning of the billboard charts and you'll see it.<br><br>But if you put in the effort to search, the good music is there. Today, yesterday, and years ago. It will be the same tomorrow.<br><br>

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#130287 - 01/20/04 04:11 AM Re: GarbageBand
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If you honestly think that this little application, released in the year 2004, signals the onset of 'crap' music, then you obviously haven't been paying attention to the radio since, oh, the 70's...<br><br>It's a hobby tool, nothing more. If it helps that one kid out there discover a little musical talent, and he goes on to make some better music with some better tools, then I think Apple did its job. <br><br>

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#130288 - 01/20/04 04:11 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: hayesk]
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I agree..I think we're essentially saying the same thing. Art/Music has evovled consistently towards a minimal incarnation since...forever. It's just that in the last few years it has become much more noticeable with the "reality" craze. I see this as expectations being lowered, so Art/Music follows suit.<br><br>I'm not saying that GB will destroy music by helping John Q. Public make a song. I believe, instead, it will further lower people's expectations of music.<br><br>===================<br><br>S3V3N<br>Washington, DC USA

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