<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>It's not trashing apple, i just dont get trashing people for something YOU dont feel is good.<br><br>How many people have written horrible books since the typewriter?<br><br>How many bad guitar solos must we endure since the invention of the amplifier?<br><br><br><br>There will always be something that YOU dont like that someone else loves!<br><br>I just dont like people trashing others creativity. If YOU dont like then fine, move on.<br><p><hr></blockquote><p>i wasn't talking about the hobbyist, but i do think there is role for criticism even for the hobbyist. we can't just applaud every little thing that one does. unless of course we are talking about a mental institution.<br><br><pre>PMG5/1.8Ghz/1GBRAM, PBG3/400Mhz/768MBRAM, AirportX</pre><p>

Its snobbish simply because you are so certain that what you don't like isn't good for others. Did you ever consider that what you think is crap, someone else might think is great?<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>i'm worried for the quality of mass music.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Oh please. Should we thank you for keeping an eye on the quality of art around the globe?<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>art can't be a hobby.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Says who? I have no idea what you're talking about here. Most people probably start as hobbyists. So you hate hobby paintings - don't buy them. Others might consider them a diamond in the rough. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>btw, don't insult my art, i don't do any.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Huh? How on earth did I insult your art?? Look, we clearly don't see eye to eye here, but your post really touched a nerve with me because I have no talent as an artist, music or otherwise. So when things like Garageband come along at least I can pretend and get some enjoyment out of it. Now you come along and try and tell me I shouldn't even be allowed to do that!<br><br>

If we're lucky it'll stay 'virtual', digital,<br>meaning they hopefully wont produce CD's<br>rather post them er sumthin'...<br><br>anyhow<br>real headz know good music <br>and puffdaddy loop junkie sing alongs are for the cogs<br><br>Environmental damage has been a factor in political unrest. UN, 011304

it's not that difficult really.<br><br>Maybe not simple motion and transitions, but believe me, Flash is an über-complicated program when you start digging through all the actionscript and variables that allow for interaction and certain effects.<br><br>I don't know what specifically you're referring to when you use the term 'flashturbation', but I still think the average computer person gets scared off by this program- as opposed to straight graphic programs, which anyone with a mouse and the ability to recognize the icon for a paint brush can load up and start playing around in...<br><br>While your post does bring up a sore spot for me- the fact that seemingly everyone who picks up a book or takes a night class at the YMCA is instantly a 'graphic designer' (and declares themselves so on cheaply made business cards), I don't know if GarageBand is going to put any recording artists out of house and home.<br><br><br>

Sherman beat me to it, Trog: Well said indeed! Here's an analogy. Ever since writing was invented a long long while ago, people have written very bad poetry. It hasn't diminished the work of good poets, though. Nor is it bad for would-be poets to write their stuff. It's a harmless hobby on the one hand, and might actually help the writer develop into a real poet on the other hand.<br><br>

"...which anyone with a mouse and the ability to recognize the icon for a paint brush can load up and start playing around in..."<br><br>So that's what that tool is for! Thanks DM!! <br><br>

No problem. <br><br>Garsh, how did you done make them thar purty icons all this time?<br><br>

With GarageIcon. <br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Its snobbish simply because you are so certain that what you don't like isn't good for others. Did you ever consider that what you think is crap, someone else might think is great?<p><hr></blockquote><p>well, you're right i can only speak for myself. what did you expect? i'm not a leader of any group to represent. i know that some people don't have a very refined taste and i understand why they buy the crap. i only have a very limited taste in music too. there are levels. i don't know why you think i didn't consider that.<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Oh please. Should we thank you for keeping an eye on the quality of art around the globe?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Oh please. Shall we thank you for protecting the world from the people like me? I simply stated my opinion and worries, there was nothing noble about that. Please don't try to make arguments out of nothing.<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>art can't be a hobby.<br>Says who? I have no idea what you're talking about here. Most people probably start as hobbyists. So you hate hobby paintings - don't buy them. Others might consider them a diamond in the rough.<p><hr></blockquote><p>i say so. i wasn't quoting anybody, when i do i point it out. there are certain professions that can't be done as a hobby. i think art (musician, painter. etc.) is one of them. doctors, lawyers, scientists are others. However you can have a fishtank and not be a biologist; you can pump iron, but not be a bodybuilder; you can have a blog and not be a writer. Art requires too much knowledge, understanding, focus and devotion to be able to do it on Sunday afternoons.<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>btw, don't insult my art, i don't do any.<br>Huh? How on earth did I insult your art?? Look, we clearly don't see eye to eye here, but your post really touched a nerve with me because I have no talent as an artist, music or otherwise. So when things like Garageband come along at least I can pretend and get some enjoyment out of it. Now you come along and try and tell me I shouldn't even be allowed to do that!<p><hr></blockquote><p>you insulted my art when you said, quoting: Take a look at yourself before you sh*t on someone trying to make art the best they know how. But I guess you didn't mean it than. About my post touching your nerve because you have no talent? I'm sorry I didn't mean to upset you. I was just making an observation. Go ahead enjoy GarageBand, I'm sure it's great fun.<br><br><pre>PMG5/1.8Ghz/1GBRAM, PBG3/400Mhz/768MBRAM, AirportX</pre><p>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>Here's an analogy. Ever since writing was invented a long long while ago, people have written very bad poetry. It hasn't diminished the work of good poets, though. Nor is it bad for would-be poets to write their stuff. It's a harmless hobby on the one hand, and might actually help the writer develop into a real poet on the other hand.<p><hr></blockquote><p>you said there is bad poetry? no it's not bad! it's the best they can do and we should appreciate that! don't say bad! bad boy!<br><br><pre>PMG5/1.8Ghz/1GBRAM, PBG3/400Mhz/768MBRAM, AirportX</pre><p>