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#130219 - 01/19/04 07:36 AM GarbageBand
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This app does the same to the music industry as CorelDraw did to graphic design. Lot of trash everywhere. I enjoyed the little trial and errors in this and other forums, but I'm afraid I will soon hear these loops in many more places. <br><br>Don't take me wrong, it's a great app, but people with no talent or knowledge of music and little effort will be releasing tracks with matching quality to those university party posters. You know what I mean? Stretched fonts fit to a curves, clip arts and over use of filters, etc.<br><br><pre>PMG5/1.8Ghz/1GBRAM, PBG3/400Mhz/768MBRAM, AirportX</pre><p>
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#130220 - 01/19/04 08:29 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: iraszl]
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I know what you mean. (I didn't want to be the first to say it.)<br><br>Your analogy to Photoshop filters is right on. Sure, Alien Skin let you make some neat bevels and shiny objects. Even Photoshop is equipped with one-click shadows and glows. But unless the effects are tweaked and used in the proper context (and with some restraint), it becomes apparent how little effort went into it and exactly what tool made them. (When in doubt, do a lens flare, right? )<br><br>It's sort of like Bryce... it makes pretty pictures, but the only pictures you ever see from it are endless oceans with mountains popping out of nowhere, and they all look the same. Only the folks who take the time to understand the software and go beyond the default settings can make some really interesting things.<br><br>It's not art, it's not music... just empty calories.<br><br>But I wouldn't go so far as to call it trash... it's just people having fun. And like the Hokey Pokey, that's what it's all about!<br><br><br><br>

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#130221 - 01/19/04 11:08 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: iraszl]
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Here I thought you were going to trash the app, but it's more of trashing the users eh?<br><br>I'm sorry that not everyone can be the perfectionist of some others.<br><br>

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#130222 - 01/19/04 11:24 AM Re: GarbageBand [Re: JohnR]
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not trashing the users yet , i'm just wondering if this new tool will have the same effect on low end music industry as the above mentioned cheapo design app. on graphic design.<br><br><pre>PMG5/1.8Ghz/1GBRAM, PBG3/400Mhz/768MBRAM, AirportX</pre><p>
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#130223 - 01/19/04 12:34 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: iraszl]
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That was my initial thoughts as well .. haha.. I liked the garbageband title.<br><br>We can all make music now but who is going to teach us about music?<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."
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#130224 - 01/19/04 12:36 PM Re: GarbageBand
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I think the first was watcher .. much to nutty's disgust.<br>watcher I think it was said .. something like . <br><br>"yeah but will it give them talent?"<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."
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#130225 - 01/19/04 01:01 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: TreeBeard]
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i've had my reservations for a bit now...back on january 7, i said, "i do wonder what real musicians think of an app like this that can bring music to the masses. i mean, that's great that everyone has "access," but an app that can help mediocre musicians sound better with special tracks that blend together, etc. could bring the appreciation of real talent down."<br><br>though, i said it at MC and not here. <a href="http://forums.maccentral.com/wwwthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=Lounge&Number=599896&page=&view=&sb=&o=">CLICK</a><br><br>

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#130226 - 01/19/04 01:24 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: sean]
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I believeyou .. <br>I gave up going to MC about five years ago and have not been back.<br><br>Yes there will; be a reduction of the development of real talent.<br>There will also be an increase in the development of talent .. After annother fifty years squared... or so.<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."
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#130227 - 01/19/04 01:25 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: iraszl]
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Yet? Hmmm..looked like it to me.<br><br>I think it's a great app and I don't have it yet. I plan on taking guitar lessons from a friend of mine and perhaps using Garageband as a fun hobby.<br><br>

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#130228 - 01/19/04 01:28 PM Re: GarbageBand [Re: JohnR]
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yeah I think that is how most of us will use it but for the fact that I already play guitar.<br><br>"Today is a gift, that's why its called the present."
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