National Polls released.<br><br>Formerly #1 Oklahoma drops to number 3 after getting absolutely 100% destroyed by #12 Kansas State. USC Moves from #2 to #1 (of course) and #3 LSU moves to #2 (of course)... <br><br>So how the hell does Oklahoma end up playing the #3 LSU team in the Sugar Bowl for the National Championship when CLEARLY USC is the #1 team??? So USC ends up playing #4 Michigan in the Rose Bowl for the "other title game" title.<br><br>This BSC ranking system is completely F#CKED! I say they should dump the USAToday/ESPN Coaches poll and the AP Poll and go with ONE poll (the BSC) and that's it. I say that of course because a "playoff" system would be best, but will NEVER happen! I don't care which poll they use, but this 3-poll system is Bull.<br><br>So if USC wins the Rose Bowl (which they are all but guaranteed to do), and #3 LSU wins the Sugar Bowl... who is the National Champion then? LOL... stupid jackasses!<br><br>I recall the last time this happened when Michigan and Nebraska share the National Championship... and NotreDame and Miami before that. What a mess!<br><br> What?<br>Visit Me!
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Yeah, it is a joke. I hope that USC wins; the Pac-10 is dumped on over and over and perhaps this will be the year that destroys the biased BCS.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>So if USC wins the Rose Bowl (which they are all but guaranteed to do)<p><hr></blockquote><p>Whoa! That's a bold statement! Nothing's ever certain in the Rose Bowl, and Michigan is VERY good. <br><br>
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Well, people around here are pretty excited about the whole LSU thing (I live about twenty feet off campus). To be honest, I couldn't care less about football. I do think it's funny to see all of the "Geaux Tigers" morons running around and getting drunk at game days.<br><br>
well, using the BCS for determining matchups does make sense, but i'd like a playoff system to erase any doubt. OU, USC, and LSU each have 1 loss and are each considered to be the best team by some obvservers. <br><br>OU was more-or-less guaranteed a pass into the national championship game even with a loss to k-state, so you have to wonder if they relaxed a bit knowing they were already golden because of their strength of schedule. at least OU lost to a team that will be one of the top 8 teams in the BCS bowl system. USC controlled their own fate and lost to california (6 losses) this year. USC's problem is that they played a weak schedule -- largely a function of playing in the Pac-10. notre dame looked good on the surface, but turned into a pretty poor team this year and that brought USC strength of schedule down -- actually, that last ND (they lost) dropped USC to #3 in the BCS...a ND win might have help LSU at #3. <br><br>USC will likely be a co-national champion if they can win. that's a huge achievement. i think LSU and/or OU would cream USC in a head-to-head, so this really is the best case scenario for USC fans. <br><br>i think OU will beat LSU 24 to 10. i think michigan will beat USC 21 - 14. OU will be national champions.<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>i think LSU and/or OU would cream USC in a head-to-head, so this really is the best case scenario for USC fans. <p><hr></blockquote><p>We'll never know though, will we? I'm NOT a USC fan (University of Spoiled Children?) by any length, but I'm pretty sick of the Big10/Big12/SEC thinking their whole conference is full of champions. A few things to remember when people trash USC for being in the Pac10:<br><br>1. Their strength of schedule was barely lower than LSU and that's only because Hawaii lost to Boise State late saturday night. Yup, that game is what turned it for USC. What a joke. So, despite playing in the weaker Pac10 their schedule (by computer even, not some biased midwestern sportswriter) was essentially the same as the SEC champion LSU.<br><br>2. The Pac10 had a crappy year, anyone can see that. The Big Ten and Pac10 have been matching up in the Rose Bowl for decades and you constantly hear from Big Ten fans about how much stronger their conference is. While they have a point about the depth of the Big Ten you have to remember that we're talking about the Champion here, and the Pac10 champion has always been among the best in the nation. Look at the Rose Bowl victories over the past decade. Its almost exactly 50/50 for Pac10/Big Ten.<br><br>3. Its ridiculous for people to keep pointing out that loss to California. Yes, they lost to a 6 loss team, but that came on the road and it happened in overtime AND USC went on to win the conference anyway and in very strong fashion. I don't care what excuse you give Oklahoma, they LOST their conference in a bad way only one day before bowl selection. Perhaps Kansas state should be going to the Sugar Bowl, they sure kicked the Sooners all over that field.<br><br>Since this BCS crap started the Pac10 has been the odd dog out. In 2001 Oregon got snubbed for Nebraska in much the same way that USC got it from Oklahoma. Oregon won easily in the Fiesta Bowl consolation while, Nebraska got creamed by Miami (I think). And who can forget 2000 when Oregon State wasn't even considered for the top bowl (because they were Oregon State) and also went to the Fiesta bowl to play the always overrated Notre Dame. Final score 41-9, OSU.<br><br>Its probably a good thing USC lost that overtime game to Cal on the road. Otherwise they would probably still be playing in the Rose Bowl and feeling even more left out.<br><br>
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I agree Trog, being from southern California, I'm a big UCLA fan, and I still think USC should be in the Championship game. I mean, how can you justify a team that loses it's conference championship by 4 touchdowns no less, and say they still go to the finals!?<br>Oh yeah right! your the runner-up and you still go to the championship! Somethings definitely wrong here.<br><br>And then the Coaches poll is obligated by contract to side with the BCS rankings (it's fixed!)<br><br>My guess is that USC will beat Michigan<br>Ou will beat LSU<br>The BCS and Coaches Poll ( which must agree with the BCS) will say OU is the champ<br>The AP poll will say USC is champ<br>and you'll have what the BCS was fearing, a split poll!<br>back to square one: How to fix this mess!<br><br>I tell you, the BCS is just a bunch of BS!<br><br>
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I mean, how can you justify a team that loses it's conference championship by 4 touchdowns no less, and say they still go to the finals!?<br><p><hr></blockquote><p>as a coach, how do you motivate your players to give it their all when you are more-or-less assured of playing for the national championship even if you lose this next game? it's a tough call, no doubt, but OU knew they could lose the game and still play in the big game. i was sort of hoping that OU would rest the starters for much of the game...apparently, the starters took it upon themselves to rest on the field. <br><br>in any regard, i don't think having co-champs is messy thing. it doesn't settle the final debate, but both teams get to use it as a recruiting tool and both teams have their big parade. isn't that great? i think it just means that our current system was unable to determine a single champion. can't blame that on the BCS. what if LSU and and USC had played a 14 - 10 game and OU beat michigan by 60 points? it's not the fault of the BCS that things are screwy...only a playoff system could solve it.<br><br>that being said, i think this will all clean itself up. the big 12 was clearly the best conference and OU will beat LSU and a stronger big 10 will help uMich beat USC. OU will be #1 in all polls. end of story. <br><br>
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