You are right, Canada PARTICIPATED in a few. Most of the time they were there helping. They have never started a war from my knowledge though. <br>I guess it all comes down to the people running the country. With Paul Martin now, most likely he will send troops to help down in Iraq to which I totally disagree with. <br><br>Coming back to what started the thread, back in the days, the highest power in the army was always up there in the front line first. That was courage and that showed real intentions and showed a reason to die for. If the person who started the war is in the front line, then I understand. But if the people are dying, and the person that started the war is just getting richer and richer, then its a different story. <br>Pres. Bush should have been there on the front line the first day of war. Like a cowered, he went after the war for a few hours and they made a big deal out of it on every channel on TV. And this is the same guy who didn't even finish the army in a peacefull time cause he was to much of a [censored].<br>If I am the president of any country and I send young innocent kids to die, I am going to be there with them on the front line no matter how dangerous it is. My life is not worth more than that kids life I sent of to the front line!<br><br><br>___________________________________________<br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....<br>

You are right, Canada PARTICIPATED in a few. Most of the time they were there helping. They have never started a war from my knowledge though.<br><br>Ah. Different thought then =)<br><br>I agree ...<br><br>***matt<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...

I was thinking about Canada too.<br><br>The longisticts support from the US was via intelligence reports,<br>Satellite images yada yada<br><br>Hmmmm ... I didn't realize that he US government was selling weapons to any of the Axis powers before the war ...<br><br>Not in the way of weapons.<br>The US sold millions of tons of scrap metal to Japan whiched was used for their war machine against China and Korea.<br><br>The US sold millions of cubic yards of Nitrogen gas to the Germans - Which Hitler blaimed the US for the Hindenberg event - Saying that the US could have sold them more Nitrogen.<br><br>Russia although not an axis but later became one.<br>The US Land Least thousands of airplnes like DC 3s, Duce and half "trucks" Artillary pices and manufactoring equiptment.<br><br>

Well, yeah ... but in that respect, many allied countries traded with Axis powers before the war - Including, I would wager, Canada ...<br><br>Raw materials do not = weapons ...<br><br>=)<br><br>***matt<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...

Uggh, I'm on a PC laptop in the basement of my in-laws <br><br>Anyway, just thought I'd stick my 2 cents in here. I also think it was a nice gesture by the president. He didn't have to do it. I just think people read way too much into this sort of thing. It shouldn't matter if a president is a nice guy, or that he's religious, or a recovering alcoholic, etc. Political campaigns just LOVE to use that kind of stuff to sway voters in election years. Its a great way to distract people from what the politician actually does.<br><br>When you think about your leaders you need to use your cold, hard mind, not your heart. Similarly, its great if your lawyer or your doctor is a nice guy/gal but their job is to win the case or save your life. It doesn't do me any good if they show up for my birthday or something; just do your job correctly and I'll be happy enough. Steve Jobs is supposed to be an arrogant, power-hungry jerk, but man is he ever the perfect CEO for Apple!<br><br>In less words, this visit by Bush was nice but it doesn't change anything about his policies. Fix the problems (and quit making more) instead of trying to make yourself appear like a great guy. I can promie that if I was in Iraq I would much rather have him working in Washington or at the U.N. to find a way for me to come home even a day sooner, or even working to prevent something like this from happening again than watching him wave and make dumb jokes to show his "support". I sure wish people would worry less about "character" during an election year and more about a good leader. Do the bad politicians NOT kiss the babies?<br><br>Remember, he's just another public servant we put up on this pedestal to do a job we HOPE is in our best interests. If he makes the proper decsions in Washington little stunts like this aren't necessary to try and make people think he's a swell guy, because frankly, we really shouldn't care.<br><br>Ok, I'm off the soapbox now, you know longer have to pretend to listen. <br><br>Ewww, I gotta get off this HP thing, its sucking my will to use a computer!<br><br>

Raw materials do not = weapons ...<br><br>With that amount of tonage sold they certainly was not making Datsuns cars.<br>It went into bombs, troop trucks and ship construction. Which the later is nothing but a weapons platform. who knows its just as easy to make weapons from scrap metal.<br><br>Nitrogen to the Germans was a means to harden steel when mixed with other gases. The harden steel was then use for gun barrels for artiliary and other weapons that requiered Harden steel.<br><br>So yes raw materials do not = weapons.<br>It what the end user does with it.<br><br>

In less words, this visit by Bush was nice but it doesn't change anything about his policies.<br><br>Well, of course not - never said it did ;-)<br><br>Aside from that I agree completely with your post - good job, even if it was done on a PC ;-)<br><br>***matt<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...

Well, as I said before, if you take it down to that level, everybody was selling raw materials for weapons to everybody else ... the US was certainly not unique in that respect =)<br><br>***matt<br><br>Turn up the signal, wipe out the noise ...

Here is a Cop story:<br>A bad dirty cop goes and arrests a guy with 10lbs of coke then takes the coke and goes to a drug dealer to sell it for him. The Drug dealer sells the coke after which the cop takes the cash and shoots the dealer.<br><br>Story of Iraq:<br> US sells Sadam a few weapons of mass destruction. US takes the money and Sadam takes the weapons while they are both good friends and happy of the deal. All of a sudden sadam changes its trade currency to Euro. Mr Bush comes along and says, well, we spent the money off the weapons and our currency is going down, what should we do. Oh well, lets see, Sadam is a bad guy and we know he has WMD. How do we know it? We kept the receipts!!! Lets take our weapons back and maybe we could have some of his sweet oil while we are at it and we will still look good by the end.<br><br>(oops, Sadam gave the weapons to the USSR and we didn't find anything. Oh well, at least there is the oil!)<br><br>Just a couple bed time stories....<br><br><br>___________________________________________<br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....<br>

f I am the president of any country and I send young innocent kids to die, I am going to be there with them on the front line no matter how dangerous it is.<br><br>Yeah, that makes sense. <br><br>