I have a great idea. We should build a website where we could put all the rejected work and we could put it all up for sale. Some clients do not like to wait, and therefore could use some of the work already done and maby just personnalize it a bit. In other words, since the rehect work is already made, it could be sold! <br>What you think?<br><br>___________________________________________<br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....<br>

joking right?<br><br>[color:blue]Your unsolicited Apple authority</font color=blue>

I know it's a crazy idea. But if it is well advertised, it could work just fine. It would be simmilar like ELance.com but with the work already done. The custommer could browse through low-res copyrighted previews, and for a fee they could buy the work. Once the work is bought, it would be sold as a single original and taken off the website. The corporation with the website would get a certain % of the money and the artist would get another %. Many artists could put up their work and if sold only they would get paid. <br>Also, we would charge for personallizing the work. <br>Anything could be put on the site from logo design to poster and magazine layouts. Even flash templates. <br>It sounds like a joke, but I have seen crazyer sutes before that made good $.<br>I mean, the work is there, it's done and waiting to be sold. Why keep it in a lost folder on some corner of your hard drive?<br><br><br><br>___________________________________________<br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....<br>

What's to stop someone from simply viewing the idea and creating it on their own? Since it hasn't been published or copyrighted, it'd be kinda hard to cry foul when they wind up stealing it...<br><br>

1- Everything on the site would be copyrighted. (that can always be argued.)<br>2- They would have to create it, therefore paying someone to create it.<br>3- All the custommers would have to log-in with a password.<br>4- If they want to copy something, they just need to go to the grocery store, buy a magazine, and copy a few ideas from it while changing a few colors.<br>5- Any project has pictures in it which would be sold as well. Where would they copy the pictures from?<br><br>Only compannies would be able to sign up, and we would be able to track all the projects they look at which would serve as proof in case they would try to copy something.<br><br><br><br><br>___________________________________________<br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....<br>

But how would someone know if they wanted to sign up and be a customer without seeing any of the work first?<br><br>

Marketing and advertisement my friend. <br><br>- Advertising the site would be one of the biggest problems, specially with a budget close to 0$.<br><br>- Signing up would be free.<br>- We would include some previews before signing up, pretty much like on porn sites and such.<br>- We would also put in the previews a few testimonials from different companies that had full satisfaction. (Testimonials do not always have to be real :)<br><br><br>E-lance is making millions $/year. There are hundreds of thousands of graphic designers world wide who have lots of unpublished rejected work. Many companies also look for a fast job, and if they can get a preview they would like, custummizing the project for the company would take no time at all and they would have a project ready for whatever their quick deadline is.<br><br>Most companies have a problem with trust as they do not know what the graphic designer will come up with for them. Here, we would offer the work already 90% done, therefore, they would be able to see what they will get. <br><br>Also, we could make a Royalty Free website just like iStockPhoto.com from where they would buy credits for projects and would have to personnalize themselves. The projects would always remain on the site though for anyone's use. A % of the credit sale would go to the graphic designer as well. The only problem with this idea is that money would not be as great and storage space would be huge.<br><br>___________________________________________<br>I'm just another Mac user at an 8 hour day Dilbert style cubicle job....<br>

You are describing exactly the concept that exists as a solution to a contradiction in the design field:<br><br>- Client: I'm going to need an ad but I don't have content. Designer, you "go first". I'll edit.<br>- Designer: How do I design something for no content?!? It's not "my business". I have no context! I can't possibly "go first". <br>- Reality: Unless the focus of the project is a newly discovered element (earth, air, fire, water, "TOOTHBRITE!"), the context/framework always exists for the designer to "go first". The designer most of the times just has to suck it up and be prepared for yet another project to be whittled away at by the client. Key here: divorce yourself from the project as a personal inspiration, study the peers of the focus piece and use the constraints of the predefined parameters as something to rebel against/be creative. Contrary to popular belief...working in a vacuum is NOT creative. Finding ways to swim while weighed down with 120lbs of bacon on your back...that's creative.<br><br>The rejected piece/stock campaigns site is actually a brilliant idea because it cashes in on the addage "One Man's Trash Is Another Man's Treasure". An ad for a tech-consulting firm rejected because the client had no b@ll$ does not mean the campaign wouldn't find a home with a more daring financier.<br><br>Go for it DJStefan.<br><br>===================<br>[color:blue]"Does This Hole In The Ground Make My Ass Look Fat?"</font color=blue><br>----<br>S3V3N<br>Washington, DC USA

Eh, I still don't trust that someone wouldn't just go on, look at the concepts and then just borrow certain elements and make it their own.<br><br>It would be serving essentially the same purpose as a design magazine or Communication Arts publication, IMO...<br><br>Now, if someone wanted to start a MM freelance agency- where we would all put our contact info and a few samples on the site or something, that's a different story...<br><br>

With all due respect...it sounds like you are saying you want your cake and eat it too.<br><br>I hear what you are saying, but If enough time was spent on the concept, there would be certain ways to prevent (casual) swiping...registration, login and activity logging would be one way...but there are other ways.<br><br>I work for DoD...we have certain techniques to prevent swiping classified materials through the browser, disable keys, disable right-click, disable drag...the model can be applied to any content. <br><br>You're basically dealing with the same problem faced by any piece of intellectual property on the internet so you have to accept the fact that there will be SOME losses.<br><br>You'd be working from the standpoint that your ideas would be a loss-leader, while the true goal would be to build relationships with the people who do business on the site.<br><br>If I can go so far as to make a prediction...here goes: Applications will become the next loss-leader. Companies will produce them on shoestring budgets to give away in order to collect information and get the ball rolling with potential customers. This will happen once corporate america learns how to tame the IT-Geeks and force them to work within budget. And it WILL happen...<br><br>===================<br>[color:blue]"Does This Hole In The Ground Make My Ass Look Fat?"</font color=blue><br>----<br>S3V3N<br>Washington, DC USA