heh, heh, after I wrote that I thought I'd try it out with my iBook.<br><br>ifconfig en0 ether 11:22:33:44:55:66<br><br>should be the command, but it looks like I spoke to soon, the Mac doesn't seem to change the MAC address with that command. looks like it's hardware dependant (only if the Network card supports it)<br><br>of course, I went a played some more, and now I gots to to reboot the iBook cause it lost the ether connection completely <br><br>[color:blue]Quitters never win, winners<br> never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.</font color=blue>