Definitely right John, with two sides to the story too. A business will ignore TCO, training, uptime, usability... and just look at the price tag. While at the same time Apple looks at business and says (kind of childishly) "we don't care anyway". I think deep down they do, it's just a question of what to do about it.<br><br>But also, it's a public perception thing. One of my bosses, when I proposed a custom Word (98 Mac Edition) template I've built as a solution to a particular issue we were working on, got very confused, wondering how on earth I could make, let alone give her, a Word template if I didn't have Windows... sad huh?! (No comments about using Word to solve problems either please - I know, I know...)