I am still trying to find out from a reliable source like a police announcement about what guns were actually used in the killing of the victims in both cases. I don't want to hear it from someone who heard it said by someone who heard it from another person who saw it reported by some blogger.

I don't want to hear about what gun was similar or the same style which can use if outfitted correctly by a 100 round magazine or what not.
I want to know what specific model was used.

All of my searching has just found blathering from politicos . And why hasn't this been released.

Dave