quitting Netscape should have nada to do with it... i have three browsers up at all times (iCab, Opera, IE 5, even sometimes the dreaded Netscape heh heh) try trashing your old Cookie file in the iCab folder in the Preferences folder<br><br>all sorts of tricks for iCab (including that throbber trick) at ResExcellence<br><br>http://www.resexcellence.com<br><br>also, there are any number of toolbar icon replacements, etc., at the iCab site<br> http://www.icab.de/download2.html<br><br>