TCP thanks for the reply I think the bottle neck is with the slow AGP 2x on the board. THe vid card is the ATI 9800 pro 256 MAC edition, that was a pricey card so I will stick with it. I think the highest I can go per gigadesigns site on my dual 1.4 is a quicksilver 2002 board. Would a QS 2002 board fit in the gigabit case?