Ok so maybe ill just play avi's or other movie formats..if dvd is crappy im not gonna push it to play. I wouldnt really use it to much anyway, the only thing I really use the dvd for on my pc is for installing and playing games. Any way on another note I thought that clamshells where suppost to be as cheap as I bought it...im looking at others on ebay and they price from the $200 to $350 range..I bought mine for $125 shipped with guaranteed no DOA, I feel special laugh