I don't know if you know anything about cgi and perl in general... it isn't hard to change the buttons... The looks of everything is else is very similar... take a look: http://ubbforums.infopop.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi<br><br>You must work for UBB or something because you are very bias. I have nothing against it but wwwthreads is working. UBB is $49.95 more than WWWThreads ($249.95). I don't think it is worth it. Personally I would use Ikonboard (free) and is just as good as both of these scripts...<br><br>------------------<br>-- j o n k n e e --<br>------------------<br>